To think most women have been victims of sexual assault? Has anyone not?

[Lighthouseturquoise]

Has anyone here honestly never been a victim of some kind sexual assault.

Even if not rape be it some drunk bloke groping you in a nightclub, a date getting heavy handed or pushy,

an ex boyfriend who just got carried away,

a sleazy boss or work colleague roughing your leg or making an appropriate remarks,

a friends boyfriend coming onto you,

a man thinking you were coming onto him because you were friendly then not taking no for an answer,

a boyfriend coercing you into sex or something as a teenager.

Getting beeped at or wolf whistled and feeling embarrassed and uncomfortable.

I think we sweep it all under the carpet and I bet the average woman during her life gets assaulted or harassed more than once.

You maddie need to take a long walk off a short pier.

Maddie we aren't talking about drunk women who have consensual sex. We are talking about drunk women who are sexually assaulted.

Oh you are back maddie

Joy

2kids, thank you and I am glad you have found happiness :)

To everyone here, thank you for having the courage to share your stories. Sending hugs to you all.

Maddie, i've wanted to use this for ages so thank you, ODFOD

Maddie are you 16?

Luckily not all men are like Donald Trump.

But virtually every woman you walk past, every female member of your family, has been on the receiving end of men who think, and act, exactly like him.

There he is, up on his podium, denying he behaves the way he self-describes, and saying it was 'only' 'locker room talk'.

But the fact is, almost all women have been on the actual receiving end of the behaviour he describes, so we simply do not believe him when he says he isn't like this.

He is exactly like this.

And if you're a woman, and you deny/defend him/his behaviour, you need to take a long hard look at yourself.

maddie, fuck off

if you've actually read some of the things that have been shared on this thread, and if you actually cared about women you couldn't have written this shit.

you really are a disgrace. by the way, women can't rape men.

maddiemoo

No. The sexual assault and harassment of men is not anywhere near the scale of that experienced by women. It just isn't.

Male rape is almost exclusively perpetrated by men.

I think you're being innacurate and goofy which feels cruel on a thread where many have shared horrible E oeriebces

maddie

Oh hundreds of men. Hundreds. Try thousands of women millions worldwide. A murder a day in this country, countless rapes. Your argument is feeble. Think about what you are saying

so damage is trying to give you the benefit of the doubt maddie

Did you mean to victim blame? Do woman get harrassed and assaulted by men for no reason...or do they deserve it

*goady
*experiences
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Lighthouse, I'm sorry if I offended anyone, was mortified when I saw i'd caused offence.

Quick maddie

Before you get deleted again

A man needs an erection to have sex so as brewers droop is pretty common I'm laughing at the shitty comment

"Pretty much victim blaming, no?"

No? Maybe it's because I'm a programmer?

Have you ever been sexually assaulted? NO NEVER.

But I've never also got so pissed that I let blokes assault or indecently touch me.

The second bit isn't saying that everyone who has been indecently touched has been drunk and let it happen. It clearly isn't.

I was assaulted by my own stepbrother when I was 16. And I have a deeply unpleasant memory of my grandmother's new husband wanting me to sit on his lap - I would have been about 9, but he was stroking my back trying to feel for a bra I think. I felt uncomfortable to sit on him but thought I would be rude to refuse. Luckily my stepmother had his number and intervened, warning me not to get to close to him or be in a room alone with him again after that!

My DM is 79 and has told me a dreadful story of something that happened to her as a child. In public, on an escalator in central London.

actually if maddie posts that sort of bollocks again I think we should all blank her, she must be doing it for attention. surely she can't believe it?!

I have no doubt that I have been groped at some point but I can't specifically recall one incident over another. I'm sure there are plenty of incidents over my 40 years on this planet that weren't strictly proper. The Trump thing as well as that TFL video from a few weeks ago has made me much more aware of it now though. I think if I were to be assaulted I would certainly not brush it off as something innocent as much as I might have done in the past.

Damage you might want to read Maddie's latest post.

You know that thread today where the poster's children had made accounts, they were 11 and 12? And one had built up a significant posting history, making out they were a mum of 3 etc etc.

Just leaving that thought here.

Maddie please go away. Haven't you read any of the stories in this thread? Do you actually know the statistics? Are you actually listening to what we've been through? It's hard enough having the experience but to then have people like you going on about 'notall men' and 'ithappenstomentoo' and 'ifyouhadn'tbeendrinking/wearingthat/doingthat' then using the term 'having sex' to describe assault and rape is just...I don't have the words to describe how that makes me feel.

Don't think I can face listing it all out, but yes, sexual harassment, sexual assaults, rape.

And also, I thought I'd reached the 'invisible' age and then a few months ago a man rode past me on his bike and cat called. The thing about wolf whistling and cat calling is that it's about power. They're not individual incidents. So the fact that I've been assaulted in the past means that when this man shouted at me I felt fear. Fear because I know that if he wanted to follow me he could, if he wanted to grab me he could. Fear because I know how powerless it feels to be raped. That to me why wolf whistling is vile. Some women might find it a compliment and lighthearted, but the man who does it doesn't know that does he?

to everyone on the thread who have had bad experiences

Maddie, you also have to remember the balance of power in society as a whole.so assuming for a second that the crap you speak is actually true, the fact is that unless a man was totally paralytic most women would struggle to do the damage spoken about on this thread. And that this is a perpetuation, a physical embodiment of the power imbalances between the genders in broader society. It is so damaging because of that. Women are conditioned to stay quiet, do as they're told to avoid pain. They're routinely laughed at or ignored when the complain. It is SO different. But the fact you even raised that douche of a point kind of tells me you won't get that.