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To think most women have been victims of sexual assault? Has anyone not?

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Lighthouseturquoise · 15/10/2016 17:19

Has anyone here honestly never been a victim of some kind sexual assault.

Even if not rape be it some drunk bloke groping you in a nightclub, a date getting heavy handed or pushy,

an ex boyfriend who just got carried away,

a sleazy boss or work colleague roughing your leg or making an appropriate remarks,

a friends boyfriend coming onto you,

a man thinking you were coming onto him because you were friendly then not taking no for an answer,

a boyfriend coercing you into sex or something as a teenager.

Getting beeped at or wolf whistled and feeling embarrassed and uncomfortable.

I think we sweep it all under the carpet and I bet the average woman during her life gets assaulted or harassed more than once.

OP posts:
gamerwidow · 15/10/2016 20:00

I've been groped in nightclubs, had men shout 'nice tits' or similar at me more times I can count (yes they are nice, no I'm not flattered ), been flashed at as a teenager, had a man a nightclub be so angry that i rebuffed his advances that he threatened to slit my throat, had my tits and arse grabbed in clubs and pubs, had my friends dad try to kiss me and touch me up when I was 10 because I looked really ' grown up '.
Yet I've never really thought of myself as being sexually assaulted although most of those examples count because we're taught to minimise it as lads being drunk and having a laugh, or we should feel flattered for the interest etc. It's not good enough.

CozyAutumn · 15/10/2016 20:00

I was once in a night out (I was about 18) dancing with this bloke and he stuck his hands up my dress and in my knickers. None of my friends were around to give a shit.

An ex used to get a bit carried away but I wouldn't class that as assault really.

TheProblemOfSusan · 15/10/2016 20:04

Count me in on the "I have"s. Once was very serious (ongoing) stuff, the rest of the many times were the usual groping-in-nightclubs, inappropriate arse holes everywhere bollocks type stuff.

Notsoyummi · 15/10/2016 20:04

Yep I was date raped, had work colleague kiss me totally unprovoked and I am married,when at a party with a friend when I was single it was in her uncles house he cornered me in bathroom and tried to grope me I legged it his small kids were asleep upstairs ffs,wanker on the bus also when I was 11 an old guy tried to touch me up can't really remember much of what happened now probly old age and trying to put it out of my mind never told anyone any of this stuff.some men are disgusting I fear for my daughter.

TheProblemOfSusan · 15/10/2016 20:04

Not ongoing right now!! Happened over a long time, I meant!

glenthebattleostrich · 15/10/2016 20:07

Groped in clubs more times than I care to recall, assaulted outside of college by a fucking arsehole who didn't know how to take no for an answer and was already well known to the police (who were brilliant) and DV from an ex.

After the DV a wonderful military policeman friend of my brother taught me self defence which helped me confidence wise.

Twat robbing his erection against me whilst I was standing on the tube in front of my then 3 year old (stopped when I stamped down on his foot). Flashed at whilst out running, called a fat slag whilst out running.

It pisses me off that this is the world my DD is growing up in. She will be learning a martial art and self defence as I consider it essential for a girl these days.

My DNeice told me last Christmas that feminism isn't needed, then told me about the 50 ish year old bloke in her office who keeps grabbing her arse and rubbing himself against her. She didn't feel she could tell him to stop because she was afraid to loose her job. It's as if some younger girls have been fucking brainwashed by MRA's.

ThymeLord · 15/10/2016 20:07

Chunky I'm glad you see it differently now. There's no way I can say that without sounding twatty so please know I don't mean it like that.

Budgiebonbon · 15/10/2016 20:08

Yes- groping in clubs when I was younger, sadly we took that as part and parcel of going to these places. Wolf whistled and comments from cars passing by. Frightened me a couple of times.

The most scary was my friend and I walking home one evening from uni- can remember it was winter time and dark early. A man approached us and kept putting his arms round us, telling us to cheer up, asking for a threesome we told him to leave us alone he started shout abuse at us- calling us stuck up bitches & slags. We went into a busy pub until we thought he had gone.

The one that haunts me was when I was 18/19 when with a female & male friend, and some lads who knew the male friend came into the pub and joined us. They were drunk and started getting roudy, I was not drinking, we decided to leave - he said stay i i will let you have a go on this he then grabbed my head and pushed my face into his crotch, pulled his cock out and rubbed his dick in my face. I was so shocked I just laughed it off. I went home and cried. I never told anyone afterwards.

A colleague said he liked my Tits in a certain bra. I was wearing a suit and shirt. Much wiser by this point I got in his face and said if he so much as glanced in my direction again or if I heard even a rumour he had said anything to other member of staff I would not only rip his balls off but I would make sure he would never work In our industry again. I hope he didn't.

Sorry about the essay!

louisejxxx · 15/10/2016 20:09

I was once groped by a taxi driver - looking back I think it was an unliscenced taxi...I couldn't see straight from having too much to drink and stupidly got in the front seat as well. Never reported it because I had no proof and to be honest I acted irresponsibly (not saying I deserved it, but if I'd had my wits about me I could've prevented it from happening in the first place)

mycatwantstokillme1 · 15/10/2016 20:10

yerbutnobut sorry I misread what you wrote. Thanks for explaining. This whole thing ha brought a lot back to me as I'm sure it has for a lot of others and I'm so fed up I could cry. The fact that we're always the one to blame, no matter what we do, as so many posters here have experienced.
It's the pits.

Bitofacow · 15/10/2016 20:10

Wanked in front of - police did take it seriously
Groped, several times.
Forcibly kissed by a work colleague - in front of others

All when I was younger. Back in the 80s.

I'd rip their fucking dicks off if they tried it on me now.

Doing my best to protect young teens now. A colleague "we can't punish the lad for just touching her can we?". Er yes we fucking can.

glenthebattleostrich · 15/10/2016 20:11

Oh and not forgetting the time my house was broken into by a customer at a pub I worked in and he wanked into my underwear drawer. Or the innumerable blokes in the various pubs who thought that bar person meant 'please grope and sexually harass me, I love seeing your tiny little cock when I'm clearing glasses' The old men who would grab my arse and boobs when I worked in a social club, the chairman only did something when my granddad had a word (because a man asked him, he originally called me a silly hysterical girl).

So sorry to those who have experienced worse and lets hope we can be the ones to teach the next generation not to put up with this shit and the boys that this is not acceptable behaviour.

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TheDowagerCuntess · 15/10/2016 20:12

I'm amazed by the very first response to this thread - assuming it 'wouldn't go well', and that virtually everyone would come on to say they'd never been sexually assaulted or harassed! Confused

Hopefully they can see now that this is actually 'normal' for the vast, vast majority of women.

I've never been raped. But I've experienced countless examples of low level assault and harassment.

It would take way too long to list them all. A 12/13 year old grabbing my crotch on the street in Warrington in broad daylight and running off, particularly sticks in my mind.

TheDowagerCuntess · 15/10/2016 20:13

Nice one, Maddie Hmm

Yes, I let that 13 grab my crotch. While sober. In daylight. On the street.

bumpetybumpbumpbump · 15/10/2016 20:13

I have been seriously sexually assaulted by a man who was my friends DH and my DH Friend.

I have told nobody as I was drunk and I wouldn't know where to start explaining it and I don't want to think or talk about it. The thought that nobody would believe me and the pointlessness of destroying a family (potentially 2) also stops me.

I was in my period and it was grim.

Thanks for the thread OP.

SolomanDaisy · 15/10/2016 20:13

Yeah maddie, it's only drunk women and they're just letting men do it. Hmm

ThymeLord · 15/10/2016 20:16

Wise words maddie, wise words indeed.

Bellend.

Bitofacow · 15/10/2016 20:16

I was at work stone cold sober, but you know what that doesn't matter. I could have been pissed as a fart but my body still belongs to me and get to say what happens to it.

Shame on you Maddie. Shame on you.

yerbutnobut · 15/10/2016 20:16

No, I've read back over what I wrote and it does come across wrong, its the thing with social media, you can't get across tone, meaning etc...I meant you could fill a whole other thread with the times this gets used by men, that they were lead on. Its heartbreaking reading these posts and a lot more serious than I realised. What a world we live in

ageingrunner · 15/10/2016 20:17

I was drunk when it happened to me recently, as I've already said. However that's not what caused the assault. It was because I happened to be in the same place as a pervert and he was behind me and saw his chance. Not my fault in any way. Although, of course, I still wonder if I could have prevented it, while knowing that if a man wants to grab my pussy, there's not really much I can do to stop him.

RebelRogue · 15/10/2016 20:17

Maddie i was not drunk at camp.i was not drunk in my own home,i was not drunk during a fucking MATH TUTORING SESSION!!!!!!

CozyAutumn · 15/10/2016 20:17

Oh and when I was 17 I used to go to the gym a lot. This bloke (looked about in his 50s) used to stalk me a bit and came over to talk to me all the time. One day when it was quiet he touched my hand, and offered me a lift home. Told me there is a calendar in his car that I'd look great in and he wanted to show me. 😐

RitchyBestingFace · 15/10/2016 20:18

NOPE NEVER. But I've never also got so pissed that I let blokes assault or indecently touch me.

Can you read?

pillowaddict · 15/10/2016 20:18

Thanks Maddie that makes me feel great to know it was all my fault I was already drunk before someone spiked my drink and raped me in my own home. Lucky me they used condoms and left before I woke up (only reason I knew I'd been raped was the condoms on the floor).

You're right though, I should feel thoroughly ashamed and blame myself. Good job I have done, and still do. Normal, good ladies don't let that happen to them do they.

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