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AIBU as a single mum to consider uprooting my DDs and relocating to the other end of the country for a bloody good job

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thisgirlruns · 13/10/2016 00:00

DDs are Y6 and Y4
Have lived in the same area all their lives.. currently have amicable, shared care with ex DP who lives less than a mile away
He does all school pickups (works from home), I work full-time
We split up nearly two years ago, I am looking to change jobs and want to progress my career particularly due to the financial situation I have been left in (unmarried!) I want to be able afford holidays with my children every now and again, to be able to afford my own home etc.
This new job is in the right sector for me, in the part of the world I have always longed to be in. A big step up career wise and, had I no ties, I wouldn't think twice.
Limited opportunities where I am now. Cost of living for new job higher South East) but otherwise it would be a great move.
ExDP said tonight if I decided to take it I would have to take the girls (my preference anyway) as he couldn't cope with them full time
I am feeling incredibly selfish and guilty at the prospect of taking them away, but the thought of living my life out where I am is really hard.
ExDP said he might consider moving further south, but obviously I couldn't bank on it..
Would involve school change of course, and DD1 in final year of primary school. Can't even get my head around practicalities - what do single working parents do for the 3:30-5:30 slot??
Please help....

OP posts:
Namechanger2015 · 22/10/2016 21:55

Fabulous move, I really hope you bite the bullet and go for it. I would deffo condier having your mum move in with you so she can help out with the children.

sterlingcooper · 22/10/2016 22:57

I'd generally say you just don't move kids away from a parent they see a lot of. I'm a SM, DP and I would love to take up better job/lifestyle opportunities elsewhere but we just can't and won't because it is not an option to either of us for him to move away from his son. It's bloody hard when I see friends whizzing off to live elsewhere, but I have just accepted 100% that it's off the cards until DSS is 18 or thereabouts.

That said, it's clear you are thinking this through and discussing with both the kids and your ex, which is great. I hope you find a way to make it work for you. But if your ex doesnt move too, you'll have to think really carefully about how and on what terms long distance contact can be maintained. Who travels, who pays, how it will work when the kids are 13 or 14 and want to spend their weekends with friends rather than going to see their dad...

thisgirlruns · 22/10/2016 23:04

Hi,

I want to accept the job. I am sorry if this makes me selfish, but I've been reliant on a man for all of my adult life and have been shafted financially; have another 25 years of work ahead of me and am ambitious and want to be able to provide financial security for my daughters. I also think it is the right message to send my daughters - that it is ok for a woman to strive for a career, and that it is still possible to balance and retain a strong, loving family.
My ex DP does not work. He is the son of a rich family, his mortgage is all but paid off for him. His house is like a pig-sty, he suffers from depression and anxiety, has told me on multiple occasions that he cannot cope with the kids and has been very clear that he would not want sole custody of the girls if I were to move away. Which is good for me, because I don't want to let them go.

I don't see why my career choices should be limited because I am obligated to stay close by for the kids to maintain a relationship with him. He could easily find a job, consolidate his assets and move closer to me if he was keen to maintain the relationship with his children. He won't, because, frankly, he is incapable of getting a job.

Yes I could settle for my perfectly respectable job where I am. But it has no prospects. I don't feel I should make an apology for wanting to move forward in my career. My daughters are 8 and 10, they're not babies anymore. I wasn't looking to move on purpose - I was idly browsing job opportunities to see how I might make the next move forward; I saw my 'dream job' advertised and thought I would throw my hat in the ring. I didn't think for one moment I would be successful. For me, it's a real step up from essentially a glorified administrator to a proper, professional position in a sector I'm passionate about in an area of expertise I've been training in (part time, self-funded) for the last three years. I've had huge insecurities about my abilites, and now, someone believes in me and my ability to do a job which I think I would love.

It's also not a job in the City either - I'm not going to be the next Nicola Horlick. It's for a non-profit/charity, everyone seems really nice and the Chief Exec has a vague idea about my situation and is cognisant of the fact that this is a massive decision for me.

I have tonight sent ex DP a proposal about the way forward. We met in the pub this afternoon and began talking through the practicalities. He wants me to take the job but doesn't want to lose the contact with the girls. However, he said again that he couldn't cope with them on a day-to-day basis either. From my point of view, if I take the job, he will be living in a fully-funded, 3 bed semi in the leafiest, most well-to-do part of town with a mortgage as big as some people's car loans. He doesn't have to work to have this. He will continue to live in it, and all the mess and squalor within, yet the girls won't be with him full time. Meanwhile, I'll be down South, will be hard pushed financially, will have the majority of the childcare and will be restricted to renting as I can't raise enough funds to buy. Maybe that is my choice. But I am thinking about where I want to be in 5 years time, and it sure as hell isn't here, doing the same job, in the same rented house as he refuses to give me any financial settlement from our 15 years together. I am fed up of my life being dictated by him.

In terms of access: I have proposed he sees the girls every other weekend. I drive them to him for one (then stay with my mum) and he comes south for the other. He can stay in my house, so no expense for him, and I will vacate. I have proposed he has them every half term and through school holidays. He doesn't have to - I''m just saying he can have that time if he wants. And if he decided to move down South too, we could continue to co-parent as we have in the North.

Unfortunately, my mum has told me she can't/won't move. As much as she would want to, it's not financially viable - she simply couldn't afford to buy at Oxfordshire prices. And she's ruled out living with us in a 3 bed house - she wants her own space. I completely understand.

I appreciate the comments about the challenges of making friends as a single mum. I don't have any idyllic notions of it all - I do find the girls hard work at times. But as far as social life goes, I am a runner, I train for triathlon. And this is something we do as a family. They're used to coming to training sessions with me - the lure of the ipad and the chance to go and buy themselves a hot chocolate from the cafe as I do a run session seems to work for us. We do Parkrun - they either watch, or take part. They came with me to a duathlon last weekend - they helped with timings or sat in the car - it was a looped course and everytime I ran or cycled past they cheered me on, and I checked they were ok. So I am learning I can continue to train, which brings its own social life, and they can be included in that.

I feel like I am standing on the edge of a cliff and I am making this decision alone. I don't know if it's the right one. It is a huge responsibility. But for once, I feel in control. My daughters are my absolute priority, but I also need to think about where we'll all be in ten years time.

Sorry if this is all a bit of a diatribe, but writing it down is quite cathartic. On Monday I have to make a decision one way or another. There are challenges whichever choice I make, but I feel quite strongly that it's important to move forward in life.

OP posts:
Pisssssedofff · 22/10/2016 23:08

You will be fine. I am doing exactly what you are doing in 18 months time, only I'm going to the other side of the world. I'm getting an au pair and will have an amazing life frankly because what's the alternative.

thisgirlruns · 22/10/2016 23:13

Pissssssed I think I love you. I am so grateful for people who say it can be done. In RL I have two male friends who unequivocally think I should go for it, and one female friend actually. But the male friends don't even question it. They just say JFDI.
xx

OP posts:
Honu · 23/10/2016 00:01

JFDI thisgirl. It will be hard but you'll regret it for ever if you don't. Best of luck.

MiniAlphaBravo · 23/10/2016 07:15

Good luck! I think you should go for it and not let your life be dictated to by him. After all he sounds quite selfish and your girls are happy with the move. They will still see their dad.

piedpiper4 · 23/10/2016 07:31

JFDI. What else is there? Sounds amazing and you'll make it work. Good luck

Normandy144 · 23/10/2016 07:36

Definitely do it. Your girls will continue to have a relationship with their Dad. Yo sound like you really need to do this. I know someone who relocated their kids from way up north to down south away from the father and it's fine. Slightly different dynamic but the kids seem happy and it's working out.

MeganChips · 23/10/2016 08:10

Good for you OP and Congratulations.

It sounds like you've really thought it through and can make it work.

AndYourBirdCanSing · 23/10/2016 08:18

Definitely the right choice. Really happy for you OP- hopefully this is the start of something great for you and your girls Flowers

Dafspunk · 23/10/2016 08:39

You sound amazing. I have absolutely no doubt that you will make a huge success of this.

EllaHen · 23/10/2016 08:42

I have just read the whole thread Thisgirlruns - well, all your posts anyway. I think you sound strong enough to do it. Best of luck.

ItMustBeBedtimeSurely · 23/10/2016 08:42

You'd be a fool to turn it down imo.

A job with real prospects, the potential to process and build financial security for you and your girls vs an OK but dead end job? No brainer.

If your ex was unhappy about it, that would change things, but it doesn't sound like he is particularly.

I think if you stay you will end up resentful and bored, and it sounds precarious financially too, if there are few opportunities locally and you're already with the best employer. What would happen if you lost your job?

isupposeitsverynice · 23/10/2016 08:52

Bloody hell congrats op ofc you can and should pursue this - it's not just an extra grand a month it's a foot on the path to bigger and better things for the rest of your career. It's warmer down here as well Wink

Muldjewangk · 23/10/2016 08:53

Please don't turn the job down, you would regret it.

summerblonde · 23/10/2016 08:54

I say GO FOR IT! The kids will be fine, they've got you. It sounds you have their best interests at heart. Do something for yourself for a change. its for a better future for you and your girls. Be brave and take a leap of faith. x

WicksEnd · 23/10/2016 09:10

Go for it! Don't stay for their workshy dad, he'd be kicking up more of a stink if was a responsible parent and he's not is he?
Why isn't he paying maintenance from his 'family income?'

LucyGravity · 23/10/2016 09:12

At the start of your thread I thought you shouldn't do it OP. But now I think you should. It will be hard no doubt, but you know that. The possibility of not finding schools is the bit I would still be worrying about though.

Pisssssedofff · 23/10/2016 09:41

She will find schools and the lesson it took me 16 years and many many thousands of pounds to learn is that my children are more than their schools, the schools are the bloody least of your worries. It's all down to the happiness of the children and the parents that's what makes the difference. The children cannot suceed in an environment where mum is not happy. That's the bottom line, get that right and everything else falls into place.

Charley50 · 23/10/2016 09:48

I was one who initially thought you should say no, but seeing how you've thought this through and thought of good solutions, I also think you should go for it! Congratulations on getting the job. It's great that ex will come to see them every other time too, as it lessens the impact of travelling for your DCs and it also means he has to put some effort in to see them.

And phones skype etc does mean that they can speak a lot to keep their bond with their dad strong. Being there physically isn't the only way to be close to someone.

Charley50 · 23/10/2016 09:59

On the other hand, are there really no similar jobs for charities in Newcastle or elsewhere in the NE?

Volatile · 23/10/2016 10:01

Do go for it!

One of the happiest separated families I know have the arrangement you'd be moving to, with kids spending a good chunk of holidays with dad and one weekend a month. They all seem to thrive.

deliciousdevilwoman · 23/10/2016 10:10

I also thought you shouldn't do it at the start-but now having read your lengthy update, I think you absolutely should JFDI!

And to answer your question upthread re maintenance-if your ex's assets aren't income based, he cannot be compelled to pay maintenance via the CMS. I know this as my own ex was bequeathed 80k from his Godmother, received 200k from the sale of our matrimonial home post divorce and lives in a flat owned outright worth around 220k. He gave notice to his long term tenants and moved back in and gave up a p/t job to evade paying the derisory amount of CM he was assessed to. Sorry, bit of a tangent! Morally, he of course should pay OP, but legally is a different ball game. For some people, it really is a race to the bottom....

Anyway, congratulations on the job and best of luck with the re-location etc ;-)

Milklollies · 23/10/2016 10:15

Another new poster here who also says go for it. Removing the kids from a lazy bugger (DNA means nothing to me) and fighting to give your kids a better future is the best choice. When you're kids grow up they will be so thankful to have a mother like you. From what you have stated it seems to me that you're making this decision for all the right reasons. Good luck Flowers

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