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To be fed up of comparisons with 1930s Germany in U.K. politics?

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jessica29054 · 05/10/2016 19:48

Surely a better and far less potentially offensive comparison is the 1980s?

Labour in disarray, therefore weak opposition, and a female PM of course.

Comparisons with the rise of the extreme far right in Germany have little place. The BNP are the equivalent to Hitler and his party and thankfully have little mainstream support.

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smallfox2002 · 09/10/2016 15:36

I don't think we should conflate Cologne with the increase in attacks after brexit.

Smirnoffka · 09/10/2016 15:42

I can only imagine your original country is far, far worse

My country of birth is England. I ask again - As I have been racially abused several times in my own country, what do I correlate that to please?

MangoMoon · 09/10/2016 15:44

Really self awareness is not your strong point is it?

Pot/kettle...

smallfox2002 · 09/10/2016 15:47

You don't have to correlate it to anything, you should report it.

But again, the stance you are taking is an attempt to dismiss the fact that there was a spike in race related incidents following brexit.

MargoReadbetter · 09/10/2016 15:48

Smirnoffka - sorry, you have no excuse then to accept racial discrimination as part of the hurly burly of living in a big city. Blame the Nasty Party Tories and the far right for generating intolerance and hatred.

smallfox2002 · 09/10/2016 15:49

Hullo Mango, nice to see you contribute something once again.

Smirnoffka · 09/10/2016 15:53

Blame the Tories and the Far Right?? But they are not the ones responsible for the racial obscenities thrown at me. I am white british.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/10/2016 15:53

Blame the Nasty Party Tories and the far right for generating intolerance and hatred.

Of course Labour and left are full of tolerance and acceptance. Hmm

BillSykesDog · 09/10/2016 15:57

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BillSykesDog · 09/10/2016 16:01

Saying 'there' doesn't make a lie true. And I think it's patently obvious to anyone reading this that the reason you are not quoting me or anybody else saying what you're accusing us of is because we didn't say it. Your dishonesty is transparent.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 09/10/2016 16:08

I feel both the far left and far right are stirring up fear, neither side can be reasoned with neither side really wants to move forward they seem to like the create fear and unease amoungst the public

GreenandWhite · 09/10/2016 16:28

"I am white british." wow, what an achievement Star

frumpet · 09/10/2016 16:29

Elly I know , you have probably guessed I am a remainer Wink . I am worried about the future , I haven't heard anyone from the brexit camp , including our current goverment , who have been able to give us any facts or figures that prove that leaving will be better for everyone in the UK .

GreenandWhite · 09/10/2016 16:33

"You're so incapable of having a proper rational debate or defending your own argument that you've been reduced to making up blatant lies. Pathetic."

oh, oh... billy your 'rational', 'measured' facade is slipping, it was a matter of time.

TheElementsSong · 09/10/2016 16:33

I believe the far left and the far right have a great deal in common.

Smirnoffka · 09/10/2016 16:35

Green I have been told that I should blame the Tories and the Far Right for the racial obscenities on several occasions thrown at me. I would, if they were the ones shouting the filth, but they were not. So I ask again, smartmouth, who do I correlate the verbal attacks on me to?

GreenandWhite · 09/10/2016 16:38

ok smirnoff only on the point of being the target of racial or sexist abuse, that is utter crap and i am sorry you have experienced this, it's deplorable. not sure i can see the connection with polish people or other europeans though....

GreenandWhite · 09/10/2016 16:43

Mr Farage has made yet another sophisticated contribution to orld politics:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/09/nigel-farage-donald-trumps-lewd-remarks-are-alpha-male-boasting/
"Nigel Farage: Donald Trump's lewd remarks are 'ugly' but 'it's the kind of thing if we are being honest men do'"

TheElementsSong · 09/10/2016 16:47

it's the kind of thing if we are being honest men do

Ugh Envy (vom emoticon)

The thing to do, I believe, is to dismiss this as a misunderstanding and declare the implication that he has sexually assaulted women as inadmissible anecdote. Also that Remainers made him do it.

Then sing Everything Is Awesome.

Smirnoffka · 09/10/2016 16:52

I dont think you are reading the posts correctly, Green. What has my statement got to do with Polish or other Europeans? They are not the perpertrators who racially abused me.

You feel the hijab incident is connected to post-Brexit ('correlates' someone said), I was asking what would you say my incidents correlate to.

Smirnoffka · 09/10/2016 17:03

Unfortunately a few men routinely talk about women in that gross fashion, esp. Americans. I worked in oil & gas and some of the senior ones (not the grunts who go to & fro offshore) did talk like that.

When I was at a golf club in Texas, the lardy, well-to-do ones sat around talking in exactly that way.

Haunter · 09/10/2016 17:16

How did we get to a point where one non-white person being racially abused is headline news but the rape of hundreds upon hundreds of white children by Asian men is still being swept under the carpet despite being ongoing.

"Raping of white girls by these men is still going on. Some, I know, have had to wait months before they're even asked to give a statement [to the police]. It's shockingly bad still."

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/697583/Rotherham-abuse-scandal-child-grooming-gangs-industrial-scale-victims-CSE

And still no arrests.

Smirnoffka · 09/10/2016 17:24

Exactly, Haunter. They won't admit to the gross abuse done TO whites. Ideologically it is impossible (to those on this thread).

smallfox2002 · 09/10/2016 17:26

WTF?

Way to conflate the issues here.

When did anyone say what went on in Rotherham was ok?

Haunter · 09/10/2016 17:32

I think you mean what is going on in Rotherham. And the silence is deafening, still.