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AIBU?

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To think this is the kind of shit that will grind a person down and kill a marriage

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hearthattack · 02/10/2016 17:10

Sorry for the essay. DH has always been thrifty. I'm into it. We both like a bargain and don't believe in status possessions or having too much Stuff.

Be he is sooooo f-ing tight over buying stuff for our son it drives me insane! Angry

I just got back from the supermarket with a warm winter coat that cost a grand total of £9. I was pleased with myself. DH saw the price and made his disapproving 'do we really need that?' face. It's a coat ffs. To keep our 11 month old child warm in the winter. DP has 5 good coats. All of which are excellent quality and were bargain charity shop finds, but still cost more than 9 measly quid.

A few weeks ago we had a massive row about buying DS shoes. I get kids shoes are expensive. But he's walking and needs proper shoes for crying out loud! Right now he's in hand-me-downs a friend gave us. I explained that my mum always said you can't scrimp on kids shoes because you'll damage their tiny feet (my mum died which adds to my frustration because his mum lives just up the road and the way she did everything is the parenting fucking Bible but I have to fight tooth and nail when I disagree and have no mum to back me up). I found some good first shoes in a reputable high street shoe shop beginning with C reduced to £12, and he wouldn't buy them because he thought they were a rip off and DS will out grow them soon.

Until recently I've been a SAHM and so relied on DHs income. I physically had to ask for money to buy stuff, pay bills that were due to come outbid my account etc. I've recently gone back to work part time so can fork out for stuff myself but don't see why I should have to pay for all the clothes/shoes/toys we're going to need for the next 16 years or so .

Mostly it's the principal that really gets my goat . DP thinks nothing of splurging a twenty on a bottle of something nice, petrol to drive out to the country for a walk, anything he deems 'worthy'. But I get The Face for trying to keel our offspring clothes and shod!

(We don't have much money btw, we live pretty frugally in most respects, but we're not in poverty. I perhaps like clothes and nice food more than he does but he spends money on things he enjoys that I think equally facile. But simple pleasures are what life is about and I mostly don't begrudge him. At least I wouldn't if he weren't so judgey about things I don't think are luxuries.)

Who died and made him Keeper of the purse strings?! We've not been married that long and until DS came along had nothing to spend our money on other than ourselves. I find myself shutting down and not bothering to communicate about these things as I'm bored of having the same old rows. AIBU to think this is the kind of stupid shit that lets the rot set in?

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GabsAlot · 02/10/2016 21:58

my dh and i have a joint account my contribution isminiscule compared to his but he doesnt have a problem using any money i want

i dont go out alot or buy alot but if i wanted a treat he woldnt care

there being tight then theres you oh-he sholdnt question a thing when it comes to your ds comfort

tinymeteor · 02/10/2016 22:16

Well, hasn't this turned into a classic AIBU pile-on.

OP, I think it's clear YANBU! Fwiw my read on this, from your comments, is that he's got used to doing a certain amount of performative penny-pinching and is transferring that to your new family expenses without having thought it through. Have the chat.

wellhereweare · 02/10/2016 22:36

Well I've rest the full thread and I think I'm like the ops husband. I read the op to my current husband and asked if he'd posted on mn Blush

There are some minor differences but essentially I have a very unusual relationship with money. Blame my past, blame my parents, blame my xh but essentially I'm left with a whole heap of issues.

Op I'd really encourage you to discuss what shoes and winter coats represent. He might think the coat isn't required as your son is small enough to have a pram blanket. He might think the shoes are unnecessary as he doesn't walk outside.

I'm not making excuses, but I can honesty see where this flawed thinking comes from. As someone who is always 'looking for a deal' etc I can tell you it's bloody exhausting. It's not a switch I can flick. I worry constantly about money. I mean honestly it occupies much of my waking time.

Please just calmly discuss what you need as a family and how you can best budget for it. Good luck Smile

hearthattack · 02/10/2016 23:01

Tiny meteor, wellhereweare, thank you BlushThat's the most sensible response I've seen! You're spot on.

We've had a chat. He sees that his spending habits aren't the norm. He needs to educate himself on the costs and benefits of proper kids shoes. We've agreed a budget for Dss stuff and finally both set up a DD to the joint account for all shared expenses. He loathes admitting he's wrong stubborn git but concedes he has been something of a twat.

I won't be LTB, as I'd be waving my otherwise brilliant marriage down the toilet and that would be terrible waste. I'm off for some much needed Wine&Cake

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squoosh · 02/10/2016 23:04

That's the most sensible response I've seen!

Or the one that appeals to you the most.

All people can go on is what you've posted. So maybe he is a great guy, but there was no indication of that in the OP. Quite the opposite in fact.

Chippednailvarnishing · 02/10/2016 23:11

What Squoosh said.

wellhereweare · 02/10/2016 23:15

Can the op just not have a rant, make up with her husband and move on?

Does it always have to end in divorce?

She's had loads of differing opinions on this thread, and ultimately has a small baby and a husband she loves. The husband has discussed a difference of options and they've now agreed how to proceed.

Do we need a collective groan of disappointment that she hasn't decided To pack her bags?

hearthattack · 02/10/2016 23:17

Tiny meteor, wellhereweare, thank you BlushThat's the most sensible response I've seen! You're spot on.

We've had a chat. He sees that his spending habits aren't the norm. He needs to educate himself on the costs and benefits of proper kids shoes. We've agreed a budget for Dss stuff and finally both set up a DD to the joint account for all shared expenses. He loathes admitting he's wrong stubborn git but concedes he has been something of a twat.

I won't be LTB, as I'd be waving my otherwise brilliant marriage down the toilet and that would be terrible waste. I'm off for some much needed Wine&Cake

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squoosh · 02/10/2016 23:20

Well of course she can have a rant. But I don't think people do the whole 'LTB' thing for a laugh. If she doesn't like the majority of responses she should maybe re-read her OP and then ask herself why that was the response of so many.

That's all.

hearthattack · 02/10/2016 23:20

WABU not to least all the reasons he's otherwise a great guy?! Hmm

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Chippednailvarnishing · 02/10/2016 23:20

You can keep repeating it, but either your first post was an exaggeration or denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Canyouforgiveher · 02/10/2016 23:21

He needs to educate himself on the costs and benefits of proper kids shoes.

good luck to you OP. I'm sure it will all work out. but I've never met anyone who - when his child was 1 years old - needed to educate himself on the costs and benefits of proper kids' shoes. Kind of bizarre.

hearthattack · 02/10/2016 23:22

Oh crack on and enjoy the drama if it gets you off. I'm going to sleep.

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UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 02/10/2016 23:28

That's an odd update OP.

So now you think you were BU? Or is it that you've just educated him tonight on the benefit of children having coats and shoes? You're right then - he is thick.

HelenaDove · 02/10/2016 23:29

What sqoosh said. Your OP certainly made it sound as if it has happened more than once.

Lynnm63 · 02/10/2016 23:29

Might I remind you op YOU came on here to ask OUR. Opinions. None of us rocked up at your house with unsolicited advice.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 02/10/2016 23:30

I was a massive arse the other day. My behaviour was by most people's standards rather bad.

The person I behaved badly to talked about it with me and I accepted I had behaved very badly and have agreed to not do so again. And I wont.

Nobody needed to be dramatic or never talk to me again.

Sometimes that happens

Nanny0gg · 02/10/2016 23:34

Oh crack on and enjoy the drama if it gets you off. I'm going to sleep.

You're welcome.

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woowoowoo · 03/10/2016 00:53

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Eminado · 03/10/2016 03:17

None of us rocked up at your house with unsolicited advice.

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Italiangreyhound · 03/10/2016 04:08

hearthattack my husband is quite careful with money. It does annoy me. I know he is sometimes right, and I am sometimes right. We moved house 10 years ago and it was the best thing we did aside from getting married to each other. It was totally the right move and had we not moved when we did we would maybe have been stuck in a small place for ages. (He was so unsure as it was a lot more money, but he would now say I was right!)

Those tiny rows about money, and meanness do kill off romance, and do damage love. Luckily, my dh has eased up over the years. I think he realized that to keep going with the austerity plan would have been harmful to us as a couple and a family, and I am probably learning about being more frugal too, it is a two way street, not one person dictating.

Marriage is a partnership and it is not down to one person to decide where or how to spend the money.

Your opening post said your husband is happy to spend money on petrol and wine, so he is not truly ''mean'. He just likes to choose what to spend money on, maybe as the main 'bread winner' he sees it as his money. It is not, it is your (plural) money. I hope you work things out. A child who is walking about needs a coat and a pram blanket, and shoes.... it is not rocket science.

Good luck.

Superstar90 · 03/10/2016 04:30

Wellhereweare - completely agree - I find it really depressing on this site how often people advise op's to LTB rather than fix the issue.

Yes sometimes issues can't be fixed but marriages take a lot of hard work and no relationship is perfect - anyone who jumps at the first hurdle will just find themselves in a new relationship with new hurdles. I guess why so often if people divorce once they divorce often again. Try and work it out first people! And only when it's completely beyond repair then leave! So much more rewarding for the op if she can find a solution to this and their relationship strengthens and deepens - No one is perfect - she's just ranting about her DH's particular problem

Mummyoflittledragon · 03/10/2016 05:53

You've agreed an amount. Good for you. Hope he's open to quadrupling that amount and then doubling it again when your ds is school age and wants to start doing some activities. Then there'll be all the school trips to pay for. For now, you live in denialland and crack on yourself.

Optimist3 · 03/10/2016 06:23

I thought my husband was tight but yours is a huge step on. We charity shop and buy seconds for everything (clothes furniture). Initially yes we bought new shoes for all our children while tiny but once they got to pre school age (and could speak well) I became more comfortable using secondhand shoes. My rules for sencond hand shoes are - sole mustn't be worn/misshaped underneath at all and they must fit correctly. It's easy enough to check when you know how (on line). My friend used to own his own shoe shop and says this is fine.

Your problem is not the shoes. It's your husband. You need to sit down and discuss funds. Pool your cash and allocate amounts for clothing (new or charity), amounts for bills and so on. Have seperate accounts for these two.

I would probably end the relationship if he carried on like this. He needs counselling as he has a very entitled way, expecting to give nothing to cover his families very basic needs.

Optimist3 · 03/10/2016 06:25

Well done op

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