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Original poster

To think this takes not vaccinating to a whole new level

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Swanlaked · 26/09/2016 12:31

DD has a child at school who has cancer. The school sent a letter home asking all parents to please think about giving their child the MMR if they haven't had it and also to inform them immediately if any child was in contact with chicken pox.

One of the mums at the school is still refusing to have her 3DC vaccinated. No health issues it's big pharma/poison/conspiracy theory crap

AIBU at this point to think the school should seek removal of the children and tell the bloody thicko to find another school for them?

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Oysterbabe · 26/09/2016 12:32

YANBU. Anti-Vaxers fuck me off.

BertrandRussell · 26/09/2016 12:32

I agree with you.

But many won't- you may need a tin hat!

Wolfiefan · 26/09/2016 12:33

The school didn't send a letter insisting all children were vaccinated though did they? They asked parents to think about having the vaccination. Parents have thought about it and still don't want it.
I'd be so worried if my child was undergoing the cancer treatment though. We have experience of a child on that treatment having chicken pox. It's scary.
(Mine are vaccinated btw!)

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Swanlaked · 26/09/2016 12:34

No they didn't insist. They strongly advised parents to pull their heads out of their arses and get their kids vaccinated Wink

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Threebedsemii · 26/09/2016 12:35

This is a really horrible situation but it doesn't change a child's right to education and their guardians right to decide on their medical treatment. I can't understand why you'd think such a thing (and I am very pro vaxx)

DoNotBlameMeIVotedRemain · 26/09/2016 12:35

I can't stand people who don't vaccinate their kids. But I don't think the kids should be made to suffer by taking their school place away. They have no control over their parents decision so I think YABU but not as much as the other parents.

Soubriquet · 26/09/2016 12:35

She does have the right not to vaccinate her children

There is no law saying she has to

But yes she is very selfish not to do it especially when they are in a close contact with a very ill child

Yawnyawnallday · 26/09/2016 12:36

YANBU. Anti-vaxers are putting me at risk. All this talk about personal choice is rubbish. There is no measles herd immunity in my area. I have MS and have never had measles. So, thanks for taking the choice away from me. And anyone else with a weakened immune system.

NerrSnerr · 26/09/2016 12:37

Some people are so fucking stupid and selfish. Yeah, dreadful big pharma, no need to worry if your child (or an immunocompromised child) dies of measles.

pointythings · 26/09/2016 12:37

I am donning my flame proof armour here and saying that it should be no vax, no school except for genuine medical reasons. Woo big pharma bullshit or religion does not qualify.

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Swanlaked · 26/09/2016 12:37

Nobody is denying them an education. Just asking them to seek one elsewhere (ideally).

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Swanlaked · 26/09/2016 12:38

pointy, I agree with no vax no school (medical reasons exempt). Don't they do that in Australia?

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SmallBee · 26/09/2016 12:40

I agree with Pointy. If you're that passionate about not vaccinating then you can home educate as well. Your conspiracy theories / religion are not more important than that child's health.

WhatWouldCoachBombayDo · 26/09/2016 12:40

The sad thing about this is should the worse happen, it won't be her child that passes away, because they have a healthy immune system and midern medicine will flood them with antibiotics and medicine they can tolerate, should they catch the disease.

No it will be the poor parents of a already sick child that will end up placing a white box in the ground because someone else decided it's a conspiracy theory Angry

Having known a family go through something similar I'm projecting and very angry. Sorry for any offence caused by my rant.

Nelleflowerpot · 26/09/2016 12:42

I agree with you but doubt the school can actually do anything other that politely ask parents to vaccinate.
The fact that the family who don't do vaccines could be responsible for the child undergoing cancer treatment dying should they contract a vaccine preventable illness is beyond selfish.
Most likely outcome the child with cancer may have to avoid school more than nescessary for safety, and that is very very unfair and cruel to that child.
Some people are truly selfish and very stupid.
I am 100% on the side of the family and child having cancer treatment with this one!

Helbel82 · 26/09/2016 12:42

Donotblame I totally agree with you. Unfortunately I was one of those kids as my Mum refused me being vaccinated (something I don't agree with now) and to be honest I remember feeling frustrated by all the comments and questions I kept getting asked about why I wasn't having the vaccinations. It's not the kids choice and so to be taken out of school because of it I feel is utterly ridiculous.

Doggity · 26/09/2016 12:43

YANBU but it is unfair on those children to be potentially asked to leave a place they are happy due a parents decision.

Wolfiefan · 26/09/2016 12:44

I honestly think some people have no idea just how dangerous things like chicken pox are for immunocompromised people. There's also the idiots who say they should just never go out if they know they have a compromised immune system?!
Hmm

MoreCoffeeNow · 26/09/2016 12:44

I think it's time we followed those countries who say no vaccinations, no school.

Soubriquet · 26/09/2016 12:44

Sorry to derail the thread slightly but dd is 3.5 now and is supposed to have her booster jabs. Am I supposed to wait for a letter or do I ring and just book?

SmallBee · 26/09/2016 12:47

I agree it's unfair on the unvaxcinated child. Unfortunately dying because of another parents choice is even more unfair.
There are no winners in the situation.

akdmummy · 26/09/2016 12:48

I totally agree from a moral perspective. I know that the MMR vaccine is routinely offered on NHS when they are babies but if not taken then do people have to pay to get the vaccine later?

Humidseptember · 26/09/2016 12:50

Interesting that the CP issue has also raised its head.

i think people are utter fools around around CP so casual about it, which is mainly due to the casual attitudes of docs and NHS.

Its very selfish op, and I am inclined to agree that perhaps they can find another way to school their dc?

SmallBee · 26/09/2016 12:51

Wow sorry for my spelling!

I'd also say it's doubly unfair on the un vaccinated child if they do get something, do pass it on and are then old enough to potentially feel or be made to feel responsible for that child's death. I can't imagine how awful that would be.

Yawnyawnallday · 26/09/2016 12:51

No vax. No school. Vaccination is part of your contract with society.
Home ed does not prevent immunocompromised people like me from being put at risk . However if we had a no vax, no school rule it should do more to ensure herd immunity which protects people like me.
I accept that some children cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. They, like me , rely on the herd to protect them.
Luckily I had chickenpox as a child but the poor child you have referred to in your op is not so lucky.
All my non-uk family think it is horrific that we don't vaccinate against chickenpox.