to think Urban Outfitters were right?

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"Let's clear something up right off the bat: I am trans. The reason this seems like a proclamation worth making is that, to the untrained eye, I may seem like your everyday New York City cisgender gay guy. I haven't had any hormones or facial electrolysis, and I don't have any boobs. But make no mistake: I am trans. I wear basically all women's clothing, makeup, and hairdos and I identify as a gender-fluid trans person"

So he is a man. He looks like a man, presents as a man, calls himself Nicholas, and does not refer to himself as a woman but he is upset that he was not allowed to change in the women's rooms despite being told that there were currently young girls in the room.

Mephisto - I am aware of that and still have this view.

It was urban outfitters, I highly doubt that the mens changing room would be full of homophobic bullies. He wanted to be oooed over.

Well there is that.

Also he doesn't seem to be concerned about their hideous track record of racism, sexism, anti semitism.

I reckon next time I go to a gig or whatever I'm going to wear no makeup and one of DHs tshirt and use the men's toilets.

I may have breasts and no penis but I have decided I am now gender fluid (the online test told me I'm a trans man anyway) and I will be identifying as male at any point where it will be beneficial to me from now on.

And anyone who tries to stop me will obviously be an ignorant mephobe. So there.

"whilst simultaneously trying to break down barriers" I don't think he's breaking down any barriers, since his quotes refer repeatedly to 'womens' clothes etc. And since he as a male likes to wear clothes for women, he thinks he should be able to go wherever he likes when he likes. Yeah, really revolutionary that................

Frankly, it seems to be all about shopping for this snowflake. Whilst appropriating the experience of intersex people along the way..............

Surely if you feel like a woman, you don't want men's junk? Ive never once wanted a willy (stuff Freud).

'identify as...' my backside. Can I 'identify as' a polar bear since I am very pale and love the snow and occasionally feel the urge to rip someone's head off?

Shall we make a list of these people to put on women's changing rooms like some kind of anti wanted poster?

I don;t mind anyone not waxing grin

I feel the same but as a fairly furry women with PCOS even I can't compete with that chest hair. I mean, it's not especially luxurious but it's definitely man fur.

Just wants his 15 minutes of fame.

That should have been "claiming to break down barriers"...

RJ - yes, I've been identified as male by 2 tests lately! I'll see you in the gents - ooh er!!

limited, that is a great idea.

"Let's clear something up right off the bat: I am trans. The reason this seems like a proclamation worth making is that, to the untrained eye, I may seem like your everyday New York City cisgender gay guy. I haven't had any hormones or facial electrolysis, and I don't have any boobs. But make no mistake: I am trans. I wear basically all women's clothing, makeup, and hairdos and I identify as a gender-fluid trans person

Lets clear something else up: he's a twat.

Cisgender? What the hell is that?

Basically you chose to be the gender you were at birth. Trans people believe it's always a choice. So I was born a girl and always will be one and have no desire to change, that's a choice apparently.

the other thing is, the author talks about how centuries of "gender" ideas are being broken down and everyone has to deal with a new landscape.

wouldnt more open mindedness mean anyone could use anyone's changing room - ergo, being asked to change in the men's shouldn't matter because it's all outdated crap anyway?

I'm getting a major sense of inconsistency here.

I may have breasts and no penis but I have decided I am now gender fluid... and I will be identifying as male at any point where it will be beneficial to me from now on.

This!

Maybe this would avoid confusion re: female changing rooms / toilets etc.....

originalmavis hilarious and spot on.

Also, why the 'past' two thousand years?

Were we all gender fluid pre jesus?

'past two thousand years'

How often do you hear a female to male trans person cause a commotion because they're not welcome in the men's toilets / changing rooms?
How often do you hear a male to female trans person call for unisex everything so, as Lorelei said, gender would be irrelevant anyway?
Never. It's all about men wanting access to women's spaces.
And pulling off the most brazen smoke and mirrors snowjob imaginable; trying to make people believe they're women while insisting on retaining a fully functioning penis. And chest hair...
They're succeeding too. It's terrifyingly ridiculous.

Yep he should have access to women's changing rooms so he can ogle naked women whilst proclaiming he is gender fluid (and getting a hard on at the same time).
Back in the day he would have been called a pervert, but it's okay now to validate this 'cause it has a " hip" label.
FWIW I am straight and don't get turned on by naked men ( unless I'm romantically involved) Would that make it okay for me to use the men's changing rooms?
Self absorbed attention seeker,

There really does need to be a trans topic - that way all of these threads could be contained in one handy hideable place, for those who are bored witless of inadvertently clicking on yet another trans thread. And those who want to discuss it can do so as much as they want.

Livia, there could be, but if it had been that way, I would never have known what was going on about this issue and I'm really glad i found out.

I would say from some of these replies, there are other posters for whom this will be a learning experience, so I'm really glad the OP posted it and posted it in AIBU.

Yes but if it was a separate topic it would come up on Active unless someone chose to hide it. So it would be available in general but people could choose not to have trans threads coming up all the time.

flogging Yes. I 100% agree. It's always the male to female trans wanting to displace women. It pisses me off.

I fail to see why it's always the women who have to give way to men eroding our spaces to pander to their identities.