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I'm so sorry it's about disabled bus seats

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YourNewspaperIsShit · 08/09/2016 19:14

But It's absolutely not the normal "having a dig" thread and if I wasn't torturing myself about the situation I promise I wouldn't post it.

So I don't drip feed: I'm autistic and have an invisible physical disability.

The bus to DD's nursery was just a small one on this occasion and there was one wheelchair/disabled seat. The front seats have 'elderly' signs on and there's a sign on the wheelchair seat saying something like "This seat is for wheelchair users. Small prams and buggies may use this seat but must move if a wheelchair user needs access". Totally acceptable, I have no dispute.

So basically what happened was I got on to pick DD up from nursery, normally we go in the car but only DP drives and he was called to work. I have 6 month old DS in his pram (Silver Cross Wayfarer if it's relevant coz I can't fold it). I was in a lot of pain that day or I would have used his sling, i physically couldn't do it. In fact I kind of lean on the pram like a zimmer frame IYSWIM.

Pay for my ticket, park pram in the space and sit in the disabled seat. Every other seat on the bus is taken. Elderly people in the front seats. Halfway through the journey we reach a bus station and a lady in a wheelchair is in the queue, bus driver tells me to get off. Normally I'd 100% do this but I wouldn't have made DD's pick up.... She is only 4 so can't exactly wait another 30mins for the next bus.

I start having a panic attack with the situation and kind of splutter out that I really need to catch the bus. The absolutely lovely lady in the wheelchair says she's only taking her shopping home and will wait for the next bus.

Bus driver, assuming I guess that I'm just a snotty young entitled mother demanding the seat, continues to tell me to get off the bus. I start to cry.

I manage to choke out that I'm also disabled and get told "aye of course you are love, what kind of person takes a seat from someone in a wheelchair". It then felt like he was pitting us off one another, like some awful 'disability contest' saying things like "go on then what have you got, is it worse?"

The lady eventually gets through to him that she really isn't in a rush and goes out of the station so he can't just sit and wait for her. He reluctantly drives off with a shitty attitude and a grunt Sad

I don't know what I'd have done without her lovely calm demeanor. I'm still absolutely mortified that I didn't get off the bus though, if it wasn't for DD there's no way I'd have stayed on.

Totally prepared to hear I WBU, especially for starting a bus seat thread. But I can't stop thinking about it and have noone to discuss with IRL Blush

In hindsight I would have caught an earlier bus but usually they have big ones with 3 disabled/pram seats so I didn't think.

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summerainbow · 11/09/2016 21:19

Op if you get pip .
why do you not have a bus pass ?
You said you have mobility issues so you should get mobility part of pip .
Of course your 4 year can wait 30 min for a bus .

Highlandfling80 · 11/09/2016 21:22

The 4 year old was due to be collected from nursery. I imagine the nursery staff would not be happy to be kept waiting 30 minutes.

DixieNormas · 11/09/2016 21:26

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Julius02 · 11/09/2016 21:31

It's a wheelchair space, not a disabled/pram space.

Highlandfling80 · 11/09/2016 21:32

In this case though the lady was in no rush.

Julius02 · 11/09/2016 21:34

Dixienormas - your attitude is disgusting.

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Julius02 · 11/09/2016 21:41

I apologise Dixienormas. I completely misunderstood.

I have a family member who is in a wheelchair so I feel very passionately about this issue.

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Doggity · 11/09/2016 21:46

You're allowed to have a strop. It was a bit mean of me to say that, sorry. Blush Flowers It is unbelievably hard to be disabled, the world just isn't geared up towards people don't fit inside the box. I wish the world were more accessible to all people with disabilities.

I did read the thread yesterday but I'm too tired to read back. Could you get a card/badge to show you are disabled and in need without having to explain yourself?

DixieNormas · 11/09/2016 21:46

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Julius02 · 11/09/2016 21:51

I'm sorry, I read it wrongly. Apologies

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YourNewspaperIsShit · 11/09/2016 23:14

Yes I can get a bus pass I just haven't really needed one as it was a one off DP got called into work when he was meant to be off, he wasn't expecting it but it was an emergency. I'll apply for one after this though.

If I'd arrived after the lady I would have just instantly had a panic attack that it was the wrong size bus. Like I said I've never seen a small bus do that run before (I live in view of the bus stop/route)

DD wouldn't have coped very well being left for 30mins and nursery wouldn't be happy at all, they can phone social services if you're not picking up the DC so I was panicking massively. I'm not saying in any way what I had to do was more important than the lady, what I've been saying is she told me what I had to do was more important. Because I felt desperate I took her up on her offer which I'm very grateful for. I didn't really expect there would be a bus with nowhere for a pram/buggy

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YourNewspaperIsShit · 11/09/2016 23:15

Yes I've now looked into getting a card so thanks to all PP who mentioned that option my care worker is helping with the application for that Smile

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YourNewspaperIsShit · 11/09/2016 23:18

Also I'm sure if she had an appointment or DC to collect she would have just let me walk off the bus and got on it herself instead of stopping me and telling me to sit back down Confused

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ghostspirit · 11/09/2016 23:35

I have never had to fold my buggy for a wheel chair the space on the wheel chair area is quite big. And wheel chair users seem happy to share the space.

Op even if it's a once in a bluemoon thing it might be a good idea to get the disabled bus pass.

IceRoadDucker · 12/09/2016 08:31

I agree with the pp who said it HAS to be clear cut that wheelchair users take precedence.

It's a wheelchair space, not a disabled/pram space.

Yes to both of these.

OP, what would you do if this happened again tomorrow? Do you have a strategy?

YourNewspaperIsShit · 12/09/2016 09:04

It's not going to happen again because I probably won't get on a bus for months now. Haven't left the house since, DD's step-dad has being doing her school run. Sometimes there just isn't a solution for me, the world isn't very autism friendly yet I suppose.

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BishopBrennansArse · 12/09/2016 17:04

No, it's not OP. I have 3 kids who have autism and one uses a wheelchair. I'm undergoing assessment for autism myself and I use a wheelchair.

I still wouldn't be happy with a wheelchair space becoming a general disability space. I've been where you are, using a buggy as a walking frame as my mobility deteriorated. I'm telling you being in a wheelchair is still harder.

I do believe though that priority seats should flip to accommodate people with mobility equipment of any kind in addition to the wheelchair space. But I'd never think it appropriate for the wheelchair space to be used for anything else.

Quite besides anything else though it's a moot point. In your specific situation the wheelchair User was ok with you continuing. So on this occasion it didn't matter.

So why debate and argue unless you're trying to cause upset, OP?

MrEBear · 12/09/2016 18:37

Op I am glad you are getting a card and I hope that it gives you the confidence to get back on a bus.

You will never forget that wonderful lady's act of kindness. You never know she has possibly been in your shoes before, and understood more than most that being in pain with young children to care for is not easy.
One day you will be able to pass that act of kindness onto somebody else who needs something more than you do at that precise moment in time.

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