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to think DD should not be forced to go to uni because a friend spent £70?

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Bluemoon49 · 06/09/2016 15:14

Apologies for the length of this but wanted to give proper backstory.

DD got accepted into uni this August, is due to start in two weeks. She has long term general anxiety and low self esteem issues. Since results day she has been having second thoughts about going and considering the idea of taking a year out and going to university next September. She definitely wants to go to uni, she just doesn't feel ready for it this year due to a number of reasons. She says she will get a job and do some volunteering in charity events as this is something she's interested in as a career. I have said she can do whatever she wants but she has been very confused and kept changing her mind one way or the other as it's a big decision to defer for a year and she's worried about being a year older when she starts etc

Have told friends that she is having doubts about going this year. There is one in particular, who has known DD since she was 4 and is more like an aunt to her, who is very much of the mind that DD should go this year as it's 'now or never' and if she doesn't go this year she never will. This friend has said to me very firmly that it's up to me to tell DD that she doesn't have a choice and basically force her to go his year. She gets annoyed when I tell her that DD is 19 and can make her own choice and I will support her. She thinks that I am holding her back and DD is being soft/just needs a push from me to get on with her life and that it will be best for her to leave me and be with other young people. I agree with this, but at the moment DD is really depressed, can't get excited about university at all and really feels that it's all happening too fast. I'm worried if she forces herself to go she could end up having a break down and coming home, or at least not making the most of uni.

Now the complicated bit is that DD went to have meningitis jab on Thursday and because she has a phobia of needles and needed someone with her, and I was working, this friend went with her. They then went back to friend's house for lunch. At this point DD was of the mind that she was going to uni as planned this year. My friend had said to me the day before that she would "draw DD out" and "make sure she goes to university". I arrived to pick her up at end of day to find that friend had taken DD out to The Range and bought her a car load of stuff for uni - plates, trays, mugs, cutlery, utensils, pans etc - costing £70. She did this as a 'uni present' for DD as she knows that I couldn't afford to buy her lots of new things and DD was just going to take a few things from home. DD was thrilled with all the lovely things and said that she would go to university this year.

However, as days have passed she has admitted to me that deep down she still doesn't want to go this year and would feel much more comfortable taking a year out. She feels guilty about the £70 that friend spent and feels this means she has to go now. Friend has also planned a party for this Saturday.

Saw friend the other day, along with another friend. Other friend said "so, is it so and so date that DD goes to uni? - that is if she goes!" and friend 1 looked at me meaningfully and said "oh she's going, she has to go, she doesn't have a choice, isn't that right Blue?" and I said "no, she can choose to do whatever she wants." This seemed to annoy friend and she said "yes, but you're not going to tell her that! You tell her she hasn't got a choice!"

DD is very worried that if she chooses not to go to university this year my friend is going to be annoyed. She hasn't said outright that she would be annoyed because of the £70 shopping trip but it seems likely. I know it's an awkward situation and it is embarrassing after she's spent so much, but she chose to do that and DD can still take all the lovely things with her when she goes next year. AIBU to think that DD should be free to defer uni if she wants, despite friend?

OP posts:
diddl · 06/09/2016 15:36

Your friend is far too involved in your lives!

Unfortunately Uni is a deision that only your daughter can make & you can only advise/listen.

It certainly can't be decided on the buying of plates!

Bogeyface · 06/09/2016 15:37

Why does she care so much whether your DD goes?! I really dont get why she is so overinvested.

Does she have children of her own? Sounds like she could be one of those childless "experts" on parenting. I know a couple and they are fucking annoying but not even they would overstep the mark the way your "friend" has. I think a blunt chat about her butting out is needed.

RedSauceAndJellyJuice · 06/09/2016 15:37

what an arise of a woman
What's it got to do with her?

wheresthel1ght · 06/09/2016 15:38

As someone who also suffers with horrific anxiety can I please ask you to adopt me! My parents did to me what your friend is advocating for your dd and it nearly destroyed me. You are being an amazing mum and friend to your dd by respecting her wishes and she will always remember the support and love she has received from you.

Secondly, give everything back to friend and suggest she gets a refund from the range if the "gift" comes with conditions.

Lastly, as you rightly say, your dd is 19 and an adult. It is entirely up to her what she does at this point and if she is confident that she is not ready and has an action plan in place to make sure she is ready for next year then that is exactly what she should do.

whywonthedgehogssharethehedge · 06/09/2016 15:39

I would actually be livid that she spent that £70 as it does very much feel like putting pressure on your DD. I'm so glad it's not you doing that. Stick to your guns and let your DD make her choice, she's an adult now ffs.

CapricornCalling · 06/09/2016 15:40

I think you need to unfriend your 'friend'.

Aeroflotgirl · 06/09/2016 15:40

My jaw is hitting the floor. She would not be my friend anymore, I would have to majorly distance myself from her for the sake of your dd. Tell her to go back to The Range and return those goods, I am sure she kept the receipt. Your dd is an adult, you cannot force her to do anything she does not want, good on you for respecting your dd decision. She can go to uni at anytime, even in years to come if she is not ready for it. Tell your 'friend' to back the hell off.

skyyequake · 06/09/2016 15:41

I went to uni straight out of school... I SO wish I had taken a year out
I suffered (still do) with anxiety and depression , ended up in a ton of debt and dropping out after two terms
Tell your friend to go fuck herself

Aeroflotgirl · 06/09/2016 15:42

Yes what she is doing is bullying, and making dd worse. She would not be my friend anymore op, sorry she would not! I would do that to an aunt who was acting the same way to my kids, I would go NC for the sake of my kids.

Rubies12345 · 06/09/2016 15:43

If she drops out of Uni she will have wasted a lot more than £70.

Pay the woman back and tell her to mind her own business. She can't make the most important decision of her life based on these pots and pans.

FrancisCrawford · 06/09/2016 15:44

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Aeroflotgirl · 06/09/2016 15:45

I would also not go to the party either, she is really toxic and forceful. I would really cut her right off seriously I would. I would even cut my mum off if she was behaving like that.

BestIsWest · 06/09/2016 15:49

Absolutely unreasonable of her and none of her business tbh. I'd be furious is someone did that to my DS who has also decided to defer his place until next year. And if he decides not to go then, well, it's his life, his decision.

Believeitornot · 06/09/2016 15:49

This sounds like a strange tale and, as ever, it's doubtful we are getting the full story.

I do wonder if your friend has a point about your dd's anxiety and whether your parenting has anything to do with it.

Just wondering why she would get so involved. What's the broader context here?

freetrampolineforall · 06/09/2016 15:56

The friend is trying to help and, in a cack handed way, thinks a jolt will make all the difference. She's read it wrong and your dd isn't up for uni. Not now and perhaps not ever. The world will not end if she doesn't go now, puts it off a year or never goes at all.
It's not about the 70 quid. Pay it back; return the goods. Whatever.
Your job is to help your dd. If uni's not the thing then you can edge towards something else.

MimsyPimsy · 06/09/2016 15:59

I wonder if ShoveTheHolly might have a point, and think your DD should talk to someone independent about it all. Is she telling the friend she wants to go, then telling you she doesn't, because she's worried about leaving you in the lurch?

DIYandEatCake · 06/09/2016 16:03

Your 'friend' sounds very overbearing and like she has no understanding of anxiety and depression.
If your daughter is unsure about going, and has sensible-sounding plans for a gap year, then deferring sounds like a good plan. I went to university with anxiety and depression (being too scared of getting 'left behind' and also not wanting to stay at home with parents who just kept telling me to 'pull myself together') and ended up with an eating disorder and desperately miserable and lonely. I'm ok and happy now, but wish I could do university again as I didn't get the most out of it (though somehow managed to get a decent degree)

rosesarered9 · 06/09/2016 16:07

The stuff doesn't have to be for this year - it's not raw meat. When you give someone a present, you don't attach terms and conditions.

RepentAtLeisure · 06/09/2016 16:07

DD can still take all the lovely things with her when she goes next year.

I can't be bothered to comment on your friend except to agree that she is a nightmare who needs to learn boundaries. But you really should give all the stuff back so she can return it. At least offer.

RepentAtLeisure · 06/09/2016 16:09

When you give someone a present, you don't attach terms and conditions.

But she did! I think that's what the 'meaningful' look was meant to signify. 'I bought your kid a few bags of house stuff, so now she's going to do what I say.' This is why I think the Op should give it all back, asap!

manandbeast · 06/09/2016 16:09

This is not answering your AIBU exactly but I wanted to mention my own experience of this as it might be useful?

I wanted to take a year out but my dad wouldn't let me arguing that it was "now or never". So I went straight from school.

Of course I'll never know what would have happened if I had taken a year out but I remember really wishing I had been allowed as I think I would have appreciated the learning much more if I knew how annoying it is having to go to work every day. I think I might have made decisions about what career to go into more carefully too...

If she takes a year out I recommend making sure that she has opportunity to try out lots of different types of work- that would make it a year well spent.

Your friend needs to back off really.

Canyouforgiveher · 06/09/2016 16:11

Your friend is way over-invested in your daughter's life. You need to support your dd to do what is right for her. Loads of people take a gap year. I hope my daughter will - she also has anxiety and depression and I think heading straight to college will be too stressful for her.

My guess is your friend wants to be able to say "oh dd went off to uni because of me and never looked back, if it wasn't for me she would never have gone (aren't I great!)" I say this because this is what my mother would have done (she loved being the hero/saviour) and the statement "that she would "draw DD out" and "make sure she goes to university". is exactly the kind of thing my mother would have said.

SENPARENT · 06/09/2016 16:12

On the face of it your friend is an interfering bully. She needs to back off. Your daughter needs to make her own decisions and not feel forced into doing anything she doesn't want to do.
My niece took a gap year and at the end of it felt she really didn't want to go to uni the next year. Her mum was all for her going, but niece eventually decided to take another year out. She finally went to uni when she was nearly 21 and has just graduated. Your daughter can go to uni any time when she feels ready - it doesn't have to be now. Her mental health is more important - without good mental health she is unlikely to succeed anyway.

onadifferentplanet · 06/09/2016 16:13

Is it just the 2 of you at home? You don't mention what any other family members think. I just wonder if that is the case that her staying at home is more to do with worrying about leaving you on your own?

frenchfancy · 06/09/2016 16:15

Your friend needs to back off.

You should continue to support your daughter.

Is there any way she can go to Uni but stay at home? I know people talk about the experience of Uni but ultimately it is an academic education that she could get whilst still living at home in a "safe" environment.

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