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To wish he would just go to work?

189 replies

vvviola · 02/09/2016 13:20

I'm off work this week to settle DC into school (DD2 starting school, and lots of short introductory days).

I've had the week booked off work for months.

The plan was: Monday, Tuesday - get all the last minute bits and pieces done, Wednesday, first short day at school, Thursday, while DC at school run around doing the few bits that we discovered we had forgotten, Friday, spend the few hours DD2 is at school having a little bit of time to myself.

I'm an introvert, we've had a busy few months, and I've just come out of a stressful work situation. I was really looking forward to the two hours on Wednesday and today to just sit somewhere quietly on my own and maybe read a book.

Last week, DH announces he's taking Wednesday off to help bring the DC to school. Fair enough, he wants to bring DD2 in on her first day. The rest of the day is spent discussing house renovation stuff, but I still had today.

Except last night he announces he's "working from home" today. And again, during those couple of hours free wants to take me out for coffee and discuss stuff. Now that DD is home he has taken over the living room with his laptop.

I have literally not been alone for more time than it takes me to go to the toilet since Friday afternoon.

He always does it. I took the day off on my birthday. (I had stuff that needed to be done/signed and I thought I could spend a bit of time pottering about the house). The night before he announces he wants to take me out for lunch so he's working from home.

I get it, it's lovely, he wants to spend time with me. But I never get time alone in the house, it's either him or the kids.

I've told him I need time on my own, but it just doesn't seem to sink in.

AIBU to wish he'd just let me have a day off work and go into work himself when he's meant to?!

(I'm now off to clean the kitchen cupboards because if I sit down somewhere DD2 will climb on me, and I'm all talked/touched out for now. At least if I'm cleaning something she might potter off and play. This was my last day off before Christmas Sad)

OP posts:
ginorwine · 04/09/2016 15:27

I feel ur pain !
My ds has been at home for several months inviting folk round and with me a long and I feel quite deranged '
!
I feel that it's really hard to explain to folk just how much good it does to have time alone and how needed it is
I feel I can't think '!
And get anxious
Restored if alone !!!
I have bought a very cheap and old small camper van - just to sit in . It have saved my sanity .
I would explain to him you need time alone like he need s... Whatever it is he Wd stuggle not to have - on my ds case it's " I need time alone more than food'! - to explain to him it feels needed not a choice .
Isn't it a pain to have to constantly say ?! I get raided brows - oh mum needs tone alone again 🙄

ginorwine · 04/09/2016 15:28

Cozy I agree !
I've driven off in a right temper at times when I've had enough!
Felt in a panic and overwhelmed !

ginorwine · 04/09/2016 15:28

Wonder if it easier be extrovert ? !

princessmi12 · 04/09/2016 17:09

At royalfatty
Thought I won't come back to this thread,posters are admitting themselves they turn into witches, have tantrums so I rest my case.
About my education :I'm not English and English language is something I learned at a grown up age. I speak fluently 3 so forgive me for occasional spelling /grammar mistakes. Good on you you know your mother tongue to perfection Smile

princessmi12 · 04/09/2016 17:10

3 languages

DoreenLethal · 04/09/2016 17:25

WA WA WA - I AM A PWINCESS AND IT IS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME.

And you wonder why introverts need some 'alone' time. I need a day off just after reading this thread. Fucksake.

HerRoyalFattyness · 04/09/2016 17:28

How would you know it's my mother tongue? You don't know me. You know nothing about me or any other poster, other than what we have shared on here. Which is exactly what I was trying to point to out to you. The way you come across is very needy and clingy, and you can't seem to accept that those who don't hold your view (everyone else on here, including those extroverts) could possibly be perfectly normal people.
And being fluent in 3 languages does not make you more educated than anyone else for all you know. Education is not just language, or academic achievements. You seem to know very little about how people can (and will) behave differently to you, and that is good. Life would be boring if we were all the same.

Soubriquet · 04/09/2016 17:38

You could be the most educated person in the world but without empathy it counts for nothing

vvviola · 04/09/2016 18:19

You'll all be very pleased to know that whatever mutterings I must have said on Thursday evening and Friday morning obviously reached DH's brain this morning.

He got up with the DC (not an unusual occurrence) and took them out for a cycle and to the shops. So not only did I get a lie in, but also got a lovely hour of pottering about by myself.

And then, one of the DC's friends called around to drop something off, so I invited them in to play while DH was cutting the grass... so I was left all alone to do housework for two whole hours.

I feel ready to take on the world Grin

OP posts:
LisaMed1 · 05/09/2016 00:03

Princess - if someone asks nicely, why can't they have time alone?

kurlique · 05/09/2016 00:09

Excellent, so pleased for you OP!🎉🎉🎉

blackheartsgirl · 05/09/2016 09:32

I do get this. In 3 years I have been in the house alone 4 times. Luckily dp is also an introvert and will often stay in another room and also helps that hes a night shift worker so he's asleep for quite a while during the day. Kids went back to school this morning and he's off today but I'm about to go into the bedroom to read and he's going on the Xbox. We don't speak to each other it's great!

I get very anxious and overwhelmed if i constantly have people about. The summer hols I found stressful because I had to put up with kids in the house that weren't mine.

ludog · 05/09/2016 10:05

Im another who needs alone time to recharge. Dh is a follower/chatter type. Two years ago, just after the dcs returned to school he had an accident that left him on crutches for three months. I thought I would go demented at the end of it! He would get the bus to town every day and meet me from work. I was either at work or with him for the three months. He was so bored that if I wanted to go to the shops he had to come too, I never seemed to get a minute alone. One morning I got up at 6 a.m. to drop my daughter to the bus and when I got back I decided to stay up and get some quiet time before everyone else was up. I had just made a cup of tea when I heard his crutches tap tap tapping down the f*ing stairs. I swear, I felt like wrapping them around his neck! Even at 6am I couldn't be alone. I dread retirement, really I do....our needs are so different and even after 24 years of marriage we haven't managed to find a happy compromise.

Ihavesomethingtosaytoday · 05/09/2016 10:22

This is a big problem for me. DH has cancer and can't work any more, and is always, always around.

People assume I want to spend every second with him because of our situation. But I am desperate for alone time, and I can't find any way of getting it. I'm either working, with the kids, or with him and the kids.

I'm sure people think I'm a cow for longing for time on my own. But the lack of it is making my life pretty unbearable. It's actually been one of the hardest things since his diagnosis.

I bet I sound very mean. But I do look after everyone very well. Meanwhile I feel as though the real me has gone missing

80sWaistcoat · 05/09/2016 11:06

Ihavesomethingtosaytoday that sounds really hard, but you have to look afer yourself too.

I am apprehensive about retiring as DH is a follower around - and likes to chat. I never feel I can get on with my own thing. And his parents are, very happily, joined at the hip - and that's not me!

princessmi12 · 05/09/2016 12:48

Princess - if someone asks nicely, why can't they have time alone?
You changed your question from Princess - why can't someone have some alone time? to as above (if they ask nicely) ,when I already explained and confirmed by even more posters that you lot don't just ask nicely and just knowing the thoughts that go through introverts minds are deeply disturbing ! examples:
I swear, I felt like wrapping them around his neck!
I'm sure people think I'm a cow for longing for time on my own. But the lack of it is making my life pretty unbearable. It's actually been one of the hardest things since his diagnosis. Hardest for poster I'm sure,not her DH(who deserves all support and looks like she actually is a cow!)
I adore my husband and children but i'll often be thinking "LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE, DON'T TOUCH ME OR SPEAK"
When I last lived with someone, I used to finish work and then go and sit in a graveyard for an hour before going home, just to build in some alone time so I didn't kill dp when I got home
Very unpleasant to read!

Ihavesomethingtosaytoday · 05/09/2016 13:13

Wow! Walk a mile in my shoes. I support other people, 24/7. And I'd like, oh, maybe an hours' alone time a week.

What a delightful poster you are

ludog · 05/09/2016 13:53

Princess...have you never had a negative thought? Because that's what most posters are talking about...thoughts, not actions.

LisaMed1 · 05/09/2016 14:17

Princess Can people have alone time Yes/No. I don't think I ever got a straight answer to that, so tried to narrow it down. What you seemed to be saying is that anyone who gets upset because they need time alone but can't get it is a brat who needs to pull themselves together and is just rude because they have to actually insist.

How do you define asking nicely? If I say, 'I'm just going for a walk to clear my head.' Would you say, 'Great, I'm coming with you.' and how in your opinion could I get you to understand that I wanted a walk alone without you perceiving me as rude? Do you think that going for a walk alone when someone wants to come with you is rude in and of itself?

Is it that? Someone not wanting to be with you is rude?

PovertyPain · 05/09/2016 14:34

I'm so sorry you and your DH are going through this, Ihave. Flowers

I nursed my husband for two years and miss him every day. HOWEVER, I also found that I felt suffocated at times. It got to the stage, that 1/2 an hour in Tesco felt like a break. Of course, now, I'd go through all of that again, to have him back. My youngest (21yrs, with SN) goes back to college soon and I can't wait! I love her so much and I know I would have joined my DH if it wasn't for my kids, but fuck me, do I need a bit of breathing space!

Ihavesomethingtosaytoday · 05/09/2016 14:38

Yes, Poverty. You get it Flowers

BiddyPop · 05/09/2016 14:56

Princess, you are being particularly hurtful in the things you are saying here. It is not generally people saying "F you all I want to be ALONE" Marlene Dietrich-like. It is people who are involved in lots of other people's lives looking for a little consideration and a little bit of time and space for themselves. Not 24/7/365 for other people.

It is particularly dreadful seeing what you say about Ihavesomethingto say's situation. A cancer DX in the family is devastating. Different people respond to it in different ways. In many cases, the spouse of the patient is the person who has to juggle the balls and keep life going. You know, keeping a wage coming in, getting kids to school, keeping food on the table, that sort of everyday stuff. While getting their head around the DX and the way their spouse's life, and their own, has been turned upside down. Reasssuring their spouse, being the person their DCs can ask the questions they can't ask the parent with the DX and otherwise reassuring them, being the person that wider family will expect to handle things and answer any and all questions no matter how intrusive, be expected by that wider family to keep the show on the road and cheer them all up quite often. Trying to get the patient to their appointments, figure out the meds, hear what the Drs and professionals are saying (sometimes not just the words but underlying things). While probably being expected to be the person in control, always available, always calm and measured and organized....

She wasn't talking about what was hardest for her DH - she was talking about what was hardest for herself. EVERYONE needs some way to recharge their own batteries - and people going through that sort of situation need it even more than others. Different people have different ways of doing it. You can carry heavy burdens for a long time before you drop the ball - but there does come a time and you need to make sure that you have a chance to recharge so that doesn't happen, particularly where others are depending on you so much more than normal.

So when all they are asking for is some time alone - possibly even just to come to terms for themselves with the reality now facing them, or maybe to actually just forget that new reality for an hour - how could you POSSIBLY say that this is rude and uncaring??!!!

I'm sorry for the rant, but I've had some serious problems with people like you in the past couple of years, and I have gone through 3 DGPs dying over 27 months with little support, dealing with other illnesses from afar, DH having to work abroad 50% for 4 years, coping with DD's SN's, expectations that we (DH and I), as the eldest in both families, would sort out a lot of problems for people while both of us work FT, and then DFIL getting ill and ultimately dying in the past year, and the fallout in the family of all that - and a huge burden put on both of us as a result.

Sometimes - people actually genuinely just need time alone.

I've done the sitting in coffee shops crying.

I've done going 4 stops beyond my stop going home and having to retrace my steps to get some peace.

I have locked myself in the toilet for 5 minutes away from everyone else - and still had people knocking to ask questions.

I have told family members that just because I am "home" for the weekend, does not mean that I am free to then drive (or worse, be driven and dependent on their timings) a further 2 hours for a small gathering that I probably would go to for an hour or so if I was right there but not travel to. Sometimes, not even appropriate for me (or other family member indeed) to be there. Nor do I need that single weekend, when I have to keep 6 different households happy and also accomplish a couple of things for our own family, can I add in another event that you have decided needs to happen that weekend "because Biddy is home" and end up not getting back to my own house until after midnight on a Sunday night with school and work the next day and clean clothes needed and lunches to be sorted - when I say I need to leave at 3pm, there is a reason for that!

I have done asking nicely with no success. It got so bad at one stage that I literally screamed at my DF, which I never do - the rest of my family literally ran for cover - but it was so out of character and I was under so much stress that no one would give me any consideration but continued to pile on more. That worked - should I keep doing it that way?

I would much prefer to be able to get the occasional bit of time out that I need just by asking nicely.

When, like the OP's DH, my DH books time off or works from home when he knows that I have taken time off, just so he can be with me, or DD puts huge pressure on me to do something with her or bring her with me when I go out for a quiet coffee (which is then no longer quiet) - how am I supposed to ask for the umpteenth time to just have some time alone? Please everyone, piss off out of my life? No, a "please can you do this another day when I am not here", or accepting a "no I can't meet you for lunch even though I am on a day off because I actually have other things planned" should be enough. I do plenty with them all, and am happy to do so. But occasionally, I want a little time to myself - and for people to accept that this means TIME TO MYSELF.

BiddyPop · 05/09/2016 14:58

Poverty I am sorry for your loss Flowers

Ihavesomethingtosay I am sorry for your DH's DX, and I hope that things go as well as possible for him and you and the family, however that is Flowers

princessmi12 · 05/09/2016 14:59

Princess...have you never had a negative thought?
Not about my family,no.I'd feel terribly guilty and that I am a bad person if those thoughts would go through my head, I'd pull myself together to change my mind-set in an instance.

How do you define asking nicely? If I say, 'I'm just going for a walk to clear my head.' Would you say, 'Great, I'm coming with you.' and how in your opinion could I get you to understand that I wanted a walk alone without you perceiving me as rude? Do you think that going for a walk alone when someone wants to come with you is rude in and of itself?
No, I would say I'm coming with you.If you want to go by yourself ,please the world is your oyster. But you probably wouldn't want to go for a walk,but would want to stay in and be grumpy because I'm unexpectedly at home and inconveniencing your relaxing time by my mere presence. I guarantee your family CAN and DO feel your irritation and its hard to be around you at those times.

LisaMed1 · 05/09/2016 15:06

Princess Actually, I would like to go for a walk on my own. What is the way to explain to you that I need (yes, actually need) that alone time without you perceiving me as rude?