Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

To think it's not just me who doesn't like being stared at while partially dressed?

410 replies

lifeofsiam · 14/08/2016 13:41

Dh and I were in what is supposed to be an over-14's only sauna/spa bath area.

A boy who looked significantly younger (about 12) sat on the edge of the jacuzzi steps staring at us the entire time. His mother and elder sibling stayed in the steam room, leaving him outside.

In the changing rooms, I spoke politely to the mother, saying she may not have seen the sign saying it is over -14's only, and also her son had stared at us the entire time, making us feel uncomfortable.

She became angry with me, said the boy was almost 14 and autistic- which is why he was staring.

Ok, we weren't to know that, and she was clearly very stressed.

She then muttered 'there's always one.'

I asked 'always one what ?'

'Always one who is uncomfortable being stared at.'

I didn't respond- I didn't want to argue with or antagonise another mother with a disabled child - but afterwards I thought how it's not just me who would feel uncomfortable and a lot of people, especially women and teenage girls wouldn't feel comfortable in those circumstances, either? And that I'm not 'only one' in that case?

OP posts:
NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 16/08/2016 00:13

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

YourNewspaperIsShit · 16/08/2016 00:14

How dare I? After you tried to categorise my disability because I can read and write.... Well. It seems I don't even need to defend myself because you've done a wonderful job of proving my point on your own.

Your post wasnt reported for disagreeing, there's loads of people disagree and can have a civil discussion without making personal remarks and a saying disabled person, is able.

Spottytop1 · 16/08/2016 00:14

As I said explain

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 16/08/2016 00:15

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

UmbongoUnchained · 16/08/2016 00:15

And you are trying to ignore and reduce people's opinions and experience I disabilities on your personal views

Grin you have literally just described your own posts.

YourNewspaperIsShit · 16/08/2016 00:16

Spotty maybe you are the one that can't read because I never said there is no low or high. I said there isn't only those types. But I really hope you're enjoying causing such distress to someone. Get off whatever silly disabled contest horse you are on and kindly fuck off the thread.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 16/08/2016 00:16

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

YourNewspaperIsShit · 16/08/2016 00:18

Definition of disablist: Discriminating against someone due to their disability.

Guess what? Telling someone their disability isn't as valid as another disabled person because they are capable of writing falls under that category.

Spottytop1 · 16/08/2016 00:18

Not at all!!

There are different abilities within disabilities!!

Some can read, write, empathise...

Others cannot - some have no concept of others, no ability in reading, writing, communication, social, communication ability.

There are more 'able' and high functioning within the disabled world - that is a fact!

ToadsJustFellFromTheSky · 16/08/2016 00:19

However I might not be in the right frame of mind to emphasize with the other person at the time. I'd be too focused on my own distress and getting out of there.

However I'll be able to emphasize later when I look back.

UmbongoUnchained · 16/08/2016 00:20

I guess I better get my diagnosis and CBT revoked seeing as I have a masters degree and actually talk to other human beings in my job.
My disability must not be bad enough for it to actually effect my life.

ToadsJustFellFromTheSky · 16/08/2016 00:20

Sorry emphasize isn't the right word there Blush

Sorry I'm tired but I'm sure people can work out what I mean.

Spottytop1 · 16/08/2016 00:21

Newspaper go to bed and get off your high horse as you are being ridiculous.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 16/08/2016 00:21

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ToadsJustFellFromTheSky · 16/08/2016 00:22

The word I was looking for was empathise Smile

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 16/08/2016 00:22

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

YourNewspaperIsShit · 16/08/2016 00:23

So why do I have to count as low functioning in every sense before you can accept that I cannot empathise or control a meltdown.

It's utterly ridiculous. What you are saying is basically I'm not disabled enough in your opinion based on two posts on an Internet thread with hardly any reference to the effects of my disability. It's highly likely I'm worse than the child in the OP because I couldn't even enter a bloody spa unless there wasn't anyone else in it and I had constant supervision. But it's not a fecking contest.

Spottytop1 · 16/08/2016 00:26

Not at all... It has got ridiculous for pointing out facts!

Every disability is important but there are different severities and aspects to each - I am very confused as to why this cannot be accepted and do wonder whether this is why negative views of disability occurs.

YourNewspaperIsShit · 16/08/2016 00:26

No Spotty actually I'm being autistic is that a problem for you? Hopefully MNHQ intervenes soon, I've seen things shut down for less than this, this is insane.

OP so sorry to derail your thread I was just trying to input when it kicked off amd spiralled. I thought a first hand account would be helpful but clearly it has just left me vulnerable for criticism Sad

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 16/08/2016 00:28

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Spottytop1 · 16/08/2016 00:28

Low functioning - definition- severe learning difficulty - cannot independently make day to day decisions - is unable to identify danger.
Needs day to day help with personal care.

Is this you? If not you are now low functioning

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 16/08/2016 00:29

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 16/08/2016 00:31

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ToadsJustFellFromTheSky · 16/08/2016 00:31

This reminds me of another thread recently where someone argued with us that our views and feelings and thoughts were wrong and then accused us of being disablist.

That's right. A poster who wasn't disabled outright accused posters who were disabled of being disablist simply because they disagreed with her and were looking at things from a different perspective Confused

ToadsJustFellFromTheSky · 16/08/2016 00:31

scarf was on that thread too iirc.