Re:smoking on the beach

[kansasmum]

At the beach today with ds. It's fairly busy, lots of kids running around.
I am surrounded by people smoking. 2 people behind me are smoking and a woman in front of me. Plus a group of people just down the beach a bit who are all Smoking. It stinks.
I know it's an open space so they are entitled I suppose but it's horrible and there are kids running around etc. You can't help but smell it etc!
Just wish beaches were smoke free zones. Plus all of them are putting the cigarette ends in the sand!
Aibu to be annoyed?!!

[expatinscotland]

'Maybe have a fag?'

A spliff, more like .

[Salmotrutta]

Jeez Merchant!

What a charmer you are...

[WaitrosePigeon]

Merch, I think you need to calm down. Fancy a cig with me?

[WrappedInABlankie]

I'll close with a question to which you won't respond (although we all know the answer).

Is it better to a)smoke near children, given that they may breathe in some [quantity unknown] of your smoke, or b) exercise a tiny bit of restraint and wait until you are back home?

C) Move away from the children, and smoke away.

[PortiaCastis]

Jess I admire your courage and openness. Well done to you for getting into recovery I know it's hell but you seem to have done it. Best Wishes and Kudos for effort.
We all have our problems but obviously there are those whose shit doesn't stink

[ItShouldHaveBeenJess]

portia I was worried I'd offended you! I'd love to have non-stinky shit, but sadly, it can clear a village. I call them Weapons of Mass Destruction.

[PortiaCastis]

just hoping my lucks in later on 😍

[JassyRadlett]

C) Move away from the children, and smoke away

Yeah, this. Honestly, I don't give a fuck whether people choose to smoke or not. Their circus, their monkeys, their funeral. I could live without the smell of heavy smokers but I can say that about a lot of things that aren't my business - like those at work who wear the same clothes several days running in summer, it's similarly grim. Nothing I can do about it except grit teeth and be kind as there's clearly some kind of problem. I assume most rational folk would rather not smoke heavily, addiction is hard and overwhelming, there but for the grace of etc.

But we can all come together on the idea that plonking yourself down close to someone else in a non-crowded public place like a beach and then lighting up is displaying a certain amount of fuckwittery or self-involvedness, right?

[DioneTheDiabolist]

You know the way the smoking ban is a piece of EU legistlation, when we leave the EU can we spark up in the office again?

[ItShouldHaveBeenJess]

portia it will be, baby, it will. Take him to the beach.

[JassyRadlett]

You know the way the smoking ban is a piece of EU legistlation, when we leave the EU can we spark up in the office again?

Who told you that, and why on earth did you believe them?

[ItShouldHaveBeenJess]

jassy Agree. Most smokers (and vapers) with an ounce of self awareness will not start puffing away in the vicinity of small children. I think it's more the notion that any open space should now be deemed smoke-free that is getting people's backs up here. There have been previous threads on here about people being grumbled at because they smoked in a pub garden aka 'the smoking area'.

[PortiaCastis]

Here's hoping Trump's not elected because he's mad enough to press that button. Only thing to do then is stick your head between your legs and kiss yer ass goodbye. A fag won't matter then

[ItShouldHaveBeenJess]

portia got a weird double track going on in my head right now; half Chemical Brothers and half Sugarbabes. Push the Button.

[JassyRadlett]

Jess, I come from Australia which is already an anathema to most folk on this thread (and has got a fuckload stricter since I left). So my barometer on what's reasonable/not reasonable is probably a bit off anyway. Eg I don't think it's particularly outrageous to stop people smoking within a few metres of non-residential doorways, or in beer gardens, but I get that the culture is different here. I agree with you on the 'any open space' bit, but similarly the outrage at the suggestion that some open spaces might be appropriate for a smoking ban is bizarre to me.

[acasualobserver]

I bet they wouldn't actually speak to people like this in the flesh

I think if I ever met anyone as shrill, brittle and self-righteous as some on this thread, I wouldn't have any problem at all in being rude in person.

[gillybeanz]

For Merch

[ItShouldHaveBeenJess]

I think it really is about judgement and consideration. It's tricky; just because it is an open space, does not automatically mean we can puff over others. It probably just boils down to basic manners.

[JassyRadlett]

Jess, yeah most things do I guess. And most folks have them, which makes it sucky for the majority when others drop butts/ignore that others don't love their smoke.

[DioneTheDiabolist]

Mea culpa, twas Private Eye. I should have fact checked.

[JassyRadlett]

Ach, Private Eye is usually better than that. I will write them a strongly worded letter. In fountain pen, I reckon they'd appreciate that.

[busyboysmum]

Maybe we could have smokers beaches and non smokers beaches same as dog and non dog beaches ☺ are we allowed barbeques on beaches or does that smoke also annoy people? I'm a non smoker but can't say I've ever been bothered by the smell of smoke on a beach. It blows away so quickly. Surely children inhaling exhaust fumes walking along a road would be much worse and no ones saying ban cars ? Threads like this always make me think of that character in The Simpson's wailing "will nobody think of the children?" But of an over reaction imho YABU

[Memoires]

Beaches and parks are "basically areas for children"?????? What??? Who says? When did that happen?

[PortiaCastis]

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