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AIBU?

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to think I am not a welcome guest?

265 replies

Oakmaiden · 07/08/2016 18:24

so, we left organising our family holiday until the last minute, because we were expecting extra funds which took a long time getting to us. In fact we finally got them on Friday.

If they had arrived last month (which was when we were expecting them) we would have probably booked our first foreign family holiday (children are 10, 12 and 18, so rather overdue!), but they didn't, so we didn't. When it was clear that wasn't going to be an option we then planned to go camping near to where my parent live. However, their continued non-arrival meant we had to cancel that plan too. When I phoned my parents to let them know, my Mum said "Your dad said, why not come and camp in our garden?". We can't stay in their house as my mother has a guest already. OK. It's an idea - we have camped in their garden before.

My sister also offers to put us up - but she has a two up two down (with two children and a dog (and I understand no hot water or flushing loos)) but crucially she is suggesting we sleep in her bedroom and she sleeps downstairs on the sofa. I am not desperately happy about the idea of putting her out of her bed on our behalf. So I was planning on sending the youngest two children over there (10 and 12, so not weenys), putting the 18 year old to sleep in mum and dad's shed, and for dh and I to sleep in Mum and Dad's garden, in a tent. Not ideal, but it is doable, because it is only for a couple of nights.

It is worth mentioning at this point that Mum was quite put out when we said we weren't camping after all and may not be able to come, as she was planning a "family lunch" one of the days so we could all see her guest (very old family friend - I haven't seen her for about 15 years).

Anyway - I said to my mum today "I was wondering if we could have a BBQ on Monday - or would you prefer us to buzz off and eat elsewhere?". She said - "Sorry, I would rather you didn't come round for supper." Now - whilst it is not a huge big deal, it has really underlined to me the fact she really doesn't want my family over there at all (other than to parade in front of her friend at her "family lunch". So I really think we should be trying to find somewhere else to stay. I'm right, aren't I?

That said - I am worried about all of us descending upon my poor sister. I was happier at the idea of us all camping out in her sitting room, but I don't think she is going to let us. I think we are going to have to take her bedroom. I think she is a bit embarrassed by her sitting room, and I am a bit embarrassed to take her room. So I am not sure what to do.

PS the unwelcome guest is at my mum's - I don't think I am unwelcome at my sisters, but I feel embarrassed to put her to so much hassle...

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StealthPolarBear · 07/08/2016 21:46

Diet with no hot water or flushing toilet really?

DietCockBreak · 07/08/2016 21:48

Eh? They can use the sister's hot water and toilet, or the mum's, depending on where they stayed. And now they've got a hostel, they can use the hot water/toilets there.

StealthPolarBear · 07/08/2016 21:49

Sister has no fpushing toilet or hot water

memyselfandaye · 07/08/2016 21:58

Butlins, Park Resorts, Haven, or Centreparks, or even a Premier Inn in a nice area.

If you have the money to go abroad, then surely you have the money for one of those?

The 18yr old can get the train, if they really want to go.

HugItOut · 07/08/2016 22:00

I'm confused about the car too. It's a four person car!! and it's not as though the kids are little.... Confused

LaContessaDiPlump · 07/08/2016 22:19

Oh, op :(

If it helps at all, I've just had a think and I can count the number of 'proper' holidays (i.e. as defined by MN) I've had in my life on one hand (I'm 34).

Growing up (as expats) - holidays were almost always to visit family, with the exception of a trip to Singapore/Malaysia. That is literally the only trip we ever made as a family that was NOT to visit a relative.

As a student - 2 trips to Greece by myself for conservation work and 2 trips away with boyfriend. All other trips with family.

As an adult (with DH) - honeymoon trip to Egypt. All other trips to visit family apart from summer holiday trips in 2014/15.

So that is 8 trips away in my life that were not devoted to relatives.

I have said to DH that my idea of a holiday is one where you don't have to consider what anyone else wants/would like you to do other than your immediate 'core' family unit - I think this is the MN attitude too. However, if your family (core and extended) are happy together and don't find it a chore dealing with each other (you all sound enviably close!) then it is not a surprise that your definition of holiday includes trips to family. I actually think it is lovely that you all get on so well. It's a strength, not a failing Thanks

I wish I could sew by the way so I'm Envy of that too!!

LaContessaDiPlump · 07/08/2016 22:20

I can count them on TWO hands, that should say!! I am not an eight-fingered mutant Confused

junebirthdaygirl · 07/08/2016 22:33

Look op my kids always said " why do we have to stay in a hotel, why can't we go in a tent" We didn't tell them it was we were too fond of ourselves to do it. Your kids will have fantastic memories of camping over the years. Not many 18 year old want to holiday with parents so you must be doing something right there.
We lived by the sea for years and we had so many visitors in the summer they put up tents. It was such fun and a real adventure.
Why don't you get your dsis to join ye in the hostel for one night so all the cousins can be together. Some of the best summer memories come from fun with cousins.

I think you're under pressure having to make a quick decision but when ye get up and going it will be fun.

junebirthdaygirl · 07/08/2016 22:36

Also for the people wondering what they write in school l find kids who went to mad exotic places write something like we got a new kitten. Its like at Christmas time instead of writing about the new flashy bike they say l got a new pyjamas. Kids are weird!!

maddiesparks · 07/08/2016 22:39

Center parcs are currently sending me about three emails a day offering last minute deals mob - Friday in August for £44 pp per night, why not book something like that? Limited packing required, all nice and easy and something for everyone.

Rattusn · 07/08/2016 23:23

Op I have read the whole thread and I really can't understand all the drama/angst. The facts from what I can gather are:

  1. You want to go on holiday
  2. you don't have passports
  3. your money will arrive shortly before you leave for your holiday.
  4. you want to see your family
  5. your family don't have room/don't want you to stay with them

In this case the glaringly obvious solution is to boom alternative accommodation near your family, and see them during the day.

I see you finally got their and did this. Confused

Oakmaiden · 07/08/2016 23:31

I don't think it has actually occurred to the 18 year old that he could not come with us.

I have the cousins coming to stay at our house later in the holiday, so they will see lots of one another. Not to mention spending the days together next week.

Anyway, done as much sewing as my eyes can stand tonight. Just have some hand finishing to do, so I can get it in the post before I go tomorrow.

I'm deliberately not answering a few comments on this thread, I'm afraid, some because they have upset me and it took me 2 hours of sewing to regain my equimanity, and some because I just want to draw a line now rather than give blow by blow accounts of how/why/where/when.

But thank you to everyone who came up with ideas. Maddie - Canterparcs is my husband's idea of a dream holiday, apparently, but for a family of 5 it just feels a bit overpriced for us right now. We would rather wait to go abroad next year, and do something cheaper now. £44pppn still works out as £880 for 4 nights for 5 people....

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Oakmaiden · 07/08/2016 23:38

equanimity, not equimanity.

Rattsun. The AIBU bit was neatly summed up in "So I really think we should be trying to find somewhere else to stay. I'm right, aren't I?" I think it is clear most people agreed with me there.

However, most people also couldn't just say "Yes, you are right", but had instead to criticise the fact I even had considered camping in the garden, etc, and how is that a holiday and my poor, poor children, why couldn't I just take them to Spain like a proper mother?....

And I just was so confused about why it was such a terrible thing to have considered doing.

Anyway, that was most of the thread from where I was sitting.

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hownottofuckup · 07/08/2016 23:39

Well,

  1. I think your holidays sound marvellous
  2. I'm really intrigued as to why oh why your DSis has no flushing loo. The fact she has no flushing loo but still extended an invite to you all makes her sound quite wonderful
  3. To be fair to your mum, you did ask 'BBQ or would you like us to eat else where monday night' and she answered 'else where please' - I think you might have read a bit too much into that exchange Smile
  4. I hope you all have a great time, it sounds lots of fun!
hownottofuckup · 07/08/2016 23:42

Your DC want to go on holiday with you, including a teen and an 18yr old. That really tells you all you need to know about whether the holidays you provide for your family are good enough.

Oakmaiden · 07/08/2016 23:48

DSis is very Bohemian and has wildly different priorities to most people I know. You can flush the loo by pouring water down it. It just doesn't flush on its own.

I have always been envious of the fact that if I had the same stuff as her in a room it would look like a room full of junk, but in her house it looks like one of those magical shops full of mysterious artifacts which could whisk you off on fantastic adventures. But not really like a shop. you get the idea, anyway.

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HerdsOfWilderbeest · 07/08/2016 23:49

www.woolacombe.co.uk/summer-holiday-deals-devon

How about here? Devon. You said it was quite near? Could you drive down and a couple of you take the train?

Coulddowithanap · 07/08/2016 23:56

If you have passports then check out Eurocamps, they have some good last minute deals.

Mycraneisfixed · 08/08/2016 00:12

Make a decision and stick to it.
Don't mess other people around with all this "are you sure you'd rather we didn't eat with you? stay with you?" it's very annoying.
It's just a four day holiday.
Either camp in their garden (or wherever) or don't.
Go to a campsite or don't.
Stop faffing around and get on with it.

Newnamealready · 08/08/2016 10:17

Some very unkind comments here - on one hand the OP is being reminded that some parents cannot even afford ice creams for their children whereas on the other posters are shocked that her children have never had a 'proper' holiday? OP is clearly stressed by the situation and such guilt-inducing comments are not necessary.

For what it's worth OP, as a child I would have loved camping in a relative's garden and definitely did not need hot weather and a pool to have a good time!

Clankboing · 08/08/2016 10:39

A premier Inn? My children thin premier inns are ultimate in luxury. Or look on booking.com as it gives you vacancies if that night (s) is suitable and prices. Hth.

LyndaNotLinda · 08/08/2016 10:48

For next summer, when you have your passports, have a look at Centerparcs in Europe or some of the other centerparcs-like places. They're much cheaper than in the UK.

I hope you have a lovely time at the Youth Hostel :)

Clankboing · 08/08/2016 11:06

Sorry you've booked something. Just noticed!

witsender · 08/08/2016 11:27

We regularly have friends and family camping in our garden OP, and it sounds smaller than your parent's. It doesn't sound weird, odd or rude at all. Smile

exaltedwombat · 08/08/2016 17:41

Mum's been making Plans, and you're messing them up. Go with the flow.