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to think this is sexual harassment not "an equal opportunities issue"?

414 replies

SwissWank · 22/07/2016 13:58

If I am expecting a vulva and in a private room am met with a penis...

I don't have to touch your penis, surely?

www.buzzfeed.com/lanesainty/trans-woman-brazilian-wax?utm_term=.wn9yL7dKK#.aoLOxVqZZ

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MainMenuOnly · 22/07/2016 15:41

When people say they are transgender, the vast majority of people assume that means they have had gender reassignment surgery

True and most people will not believe you when you inform them that 75 % of Transwomen will have had 'bottom' surgery.

If I were the receptionist at the salon, I would have made sure it was all very clear before I took the booking

I am prepared to take bets if the receptionist had asked this there would still be a complaint being made...

The owner of the salon has stated very clearly that they only advertise the options they offer; as someone said it's like going to Thai restaurant and complaining that they won't rustle up an Irish stew for you.

It doesn't matter how you feel, biology is a fact, the salon do not offer male genitalia waxing, no matter how much Karen may feel/live like a woman she has a penis; she can call it what she wants but that is the biologically correct name. And the salon did not offer that option; were not trained to do that service and could have harmed Karen if they had carried on.

If Karen can't see that; she really needs to have another think.

PinkyofPie · 22/07/2016 15:42

She said when she booked the appointment that she was trans

Up until about 6 months ago I believed trans meant post-op. I, like so many, assumed all transpeople had genital surgery. They probably expected a different looking vulva than what they're used to.

Saying "I am trans" apparently means fuck all anyway in terms of genitals - afterall it's the transactivists who constantly peddle the "our genitalia is none of your business" line.

So, given that the genitalia was none of the salon's business, how do you suggest they know - should they be psychic?

MadameJosephine · 22/07/2016 15:42

pies and scrotum

Is that the new Netflix and chill ?

Genuine laughing out loud moment. Grin

NotYoda · 22/07/2016 15:43

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Did you mean that 75% of transwomen will not have had genital surgery?

MainMenuOnly · 22/07/2016 15:44

Aghhhhhhhhhhh
That should read that 75 % of Transwomen will not have had 'bottom' surgery

NotYoda · 22/07/2016 15:44

pies and scrotum, steak and kidney, meat and two veg. glad my mis-type has caused hilarity Grin

NotYoda · 22/07/2016 15:45

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Did you mean bottom as in arse?

Terminology is vital here

LurkingHusband · 22/07/2016 15:47

glad my mis-type has caused hilarity

or is that gland ?

MainMenuOnly · 22/07/2016 15:50

I have been 'informed' that bottom surgery is the more acceptable term...........

No idea why; if you having any type of surgery surely it's better to be as clear as possible.....but last time I asked a question and used more medical terminology (ie; Sex change operation and then gender reassignment surgery )I was pounced on and told I was. . . what was it, em a closed minded bigot that needed to educate myself and realise that gender trumps sex.............

noiwontmoveover · 22/07/2016 15:56

Have you read the comments?
Some idiot is banging on about how she has a 'female penis'

What a load of BS. There is no such thing as a 'female penis'

A penis is MALE.
It is a 'male appendage'

A transwoman can be a female as She 'feels', but if she has a penis,
she has a

MALE BODY PART.

End of.

NarcyCow · 22/07/2016 15:56

Bottom surgery sounds like buttock implants though. How about undercarriage recalibration?

NotYoda · 22/07/2016 15:56

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Really? I thought you were being tasteful. Again, interesting. Who informed you?

How ironic that women are claiming the necessity of using accurate terms for their genitals (vulva, not vagina), whilst "bottom" is all sorts of vague

GahBuggerit · 22/07/2016 16:00

Karen is a total chancer, if the receptionist grilled this person on this persons cock sitch i expect this person would have seen their arse and tried to sue for that aswell. win win for them really isnt it.

in other news: transgender woman claims their cock and bollocks are really enlarged labia and clitoris

noiwontmoveover · 22/07/2016 16:02

Thought it was a sack and crack?

Exactly,w hy didn't the transwoman just ask for a 'sack and crack'?
That's what you have if you have male bollocks.

If you want a 'Brazilian' (or anything elese that requries female genitalia) then I'm afraid you need to do the full surgery first. It's not rocket science, it's simple biology.

So, the Salon has done nothing wrong.

NotYoda · 22/07/2016 16:03

Gah

Ah well, that is technically true, AFAIK.

As far as I recall, the foetus has the same tissue which gets distributed in different places depending on hormones and stuff 9technical)

Female bodybuilders can get enlarged clitorises after taking steroids.

GahBuggerit · 22/07/2016 16:08

they clearly knew that the salon doesnt wax nutsacks and went anyway. id be suing the owner of said nutsack for distress and possibly sexual harassment and report them to the police for flashing if i was the waxer

NotYoda · 22/07/2016 16:09

love the term nut sack

GahBuggerit · 22/07/2016 16:10

no shit NotYoda. i know my biology thanks, shame Karen doesnt isnt it?

LilacSpunkMonkey · 22/07/2016 16:11

Someone in the comments has said 'biology is a societal construct'. Fucking hell, they have no clue what 'biology' means.

GahBuggerit · 22/07/2016 16:11

aww nutsack i forgot the Grin

GahBuggerit · 22/07/2016 16:15

just reread my comment and it comes across as a really snippy, didnt mean it that way, i was trying to identify as a funny person but instead sound like a knob........

PinkyofPie · 22/07/2016 16:16

transgender woman claims their cock and bollocks are really enlarged labia and clitoris

Trying to figure out which part of my labia or clitoris produces sperm Confused

NotYoda · 22/07/2016 16:18

Gah

No, you didn't

NotYoda · 22/07/2016 16:18

... sound like a knob, I mean

GahBuggerit · 22/07/2016 16:20

not even if i identify as one?