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to think it's OK for a guy to be in the ladies if he's with his daughter?

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laurenwiltxx · 06/07/2016 22:34

I'm reading alot about the issue with trans and toilets recently and got me thinking about times my brother has had to take his daughter to the toilet and was taking her to the Men's (when disabled toilets weren't there or out of order ect) and I protested he take her into the women's as it wasn't appropriate considering men have there things out at the urinals and things, and seats are more likely to be peed on ect. So he began doing so and got alot of looks from women. Ive been thinking about it alot more and do understand its a really hard one. What would you say daddies in the ladies with daughters or should take them in the men's?

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sharknad0 · 06/07/2016 23:20

thankfully, young fathers alone with their daughters will keep escorting them and helping them in a ladies toilet if needed. It's really no big deal!

PurpleDaisies · 06/07/2016 23:22

Don't you realise nickname that your disabled parent/ friend should just knock on the door? Then there'll be "no harm done"...

AnecdotalEvidence · 06/07/2016 23:22

Ah. I think "stranger danger" is bollocks.
I agree, but I still wouldn't send my child to the toilet with a stranger.
It is extremely inappropriate for a child to be put in the position where they have to get their bum wiped by a total stranger. Children have rights and this is incredibly disrespectful. It gives the child completely the wrong message about intimate contact.
I also think it's not appropriate to ask a complete stranger to do something like that!

BertrandRussell · 06/07/2016 23:23

No. Because I would take my son into the ladies with me until he was about 5. I think that men ought to take their daughters into the men's until about the same age. But if, for some reason they don't want to, then I see no reason not to ask another mother to keep an eye. Not to wipe or anything, obviously. But to make sure they don't get stuck in a cubicle or lost on the way out.

KittensandKnitting · 06/07/2016 23:23

Can't believe so many women would be happy for a dad to take a little girl into a men's toilet!

DP was a single dad before I met him with a little girl of 4, he would knock on the door saying "dad coming in with little girl" no woman ever complained.

Let's face it in ladies toilets unless someone is adjusting themselves they are much more little girl friendly than men's toilets

PurpleDaisies · 06/07/2016 23:23

thankfully, young fathers alone with their daughters will keep escorting them and helping them in a ladies toilet if needed. It's really no big deal!

It clearly is a big deal to lots of people.

I totally agree with previous posters saying the child goes with the adult into their sex appropriate loos until the child is old enough to go alone.

WorraLiberty · 06/07/2016 23:23

thankfully, young fathers alone with their daughters will keep escorting them and helping them in a ladies toilet if needed. It's really no big deal!

Yeah, except in 47 years I have never seen a bloke in the ladies toilet.

I've seen loads take their daughters into the men's though.

BertrandRussell · 06/07/2016 23:23

Oh of course not for bum wiping!

EatShitDerek · 06/07/2016 23:24

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UptownFunk00 · 06/07/2016 23:24

If you're taking about my comment Purple then no tree wouldn't as id leave immediately. I'm also disabled myself, just not in an obvious mobilitycsense.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 06/07/2016 23:25

Around here pretty much all of the changing tables are in the ladies so you do see a lot of dads in them.

A huge amount of the public loos also have signs up prohibiting under 10's from using them without a grown up

BertrandRussell · 06/07/2016 23:25

And I reckon my daughter has the right not to have men in the loo.

Doggity · 06/07/2016 23:25

I cannot believe that an adult man would go into a ladies toilet. Totally inappropriate. Knocking on the door and announcing you're coming in is taking the biscuit. Lots of women wouldn't have the confidence to challenge that statement.

KittensandKnitting · 06/07/2016 23:25

I have been in men's toilets after being desperate for a wee and the que for the ladies being way too long - they are hideous places!

BertrandRussell · 06/07/2016 23:26

"huge amount of the public loos also have signs up prohibiting under 10's from using them without a grown up". Really? Not in the UK surely?

KittensandKnitting · 06/07/2016 23:26

Very often you see signs seeing male attendant on duty, would you run out horrified

WorraLiberty · 06/07/2016 23:26

Can't believe so many women would be happy for a dad to take a little girl into a men's toilet!

And I can't believe any woman would clutch their pearls at a young girl simply popping into a men's toilet with her Dad, simply because there may be a row of men's backs on display.

But there's nowt as strange as folk.

EatShitDerek · 06/07/2016 23:27

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VelvetSpoon · 06/07/2016 23:28

All the single fathers of girls under 8 that I know take their DDs into the men's.

I expect that it's never occurred to them to use the ladies, much as it would never have occured to me, having never seen a man with daughter in one.

Doggity · 06/07/2016 23:29

I don't see what's wrong with a small girl in a men's toilet. I went every week with my dad until I old enough and I can assure you, it was just a toilet with some urinals which obviously I did not use. What on earth do some people think goes on in the gents?! Grin

WorraLiberty · 06/07/2016 23:29

Exactly Derek

They're not the sort of place anyone would choose to spend time in unless they have to.

MitzyLeFrouf · 06/07/2016 23:30

'DP was a single dad before I met him with a little girl of 4, he would knock on the door saying "dad coming in with little girl" no woman ever complained.'

I would have.

NicknameNotTaken · 06/07/2016 23:30

If the parent can use the regular toilets, they should, really, is all I'm saying. In lots of places the only baby change is in the disabled loo for example, in which case it's totally unavoidable. But parents with children can often use the other toilets, whereas those in wheelchairs can't...

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