to think it's OK for a guy to be in the ladies if he's with his daughter?

[laurenwiltxx]

I'm reading alot about the issue with trans and toilets recently and got me thinking about times my brother has had to take his daughter to the toilet and was taking her to the Men's (when disabled toilets weren't there or out of order ect) and I protested he take her into the women's as it wasn't appropriate considering men have there things out at the urinals and things, and seats are more likely to be peed on ect. So he began doing so and got alot of looks from women. Ive been thinking about it alot more and do understand its a really hard one. What would you say daddies in the ladies with daughters or should take them in the men's?

The older I get the less I care. Does it really matter? I often duck into the men's toilets when the ladies is busy. It is full of human persons and everything is fine. My seven year old dd however, is horrified at the prospect of going to a boy's toilet! No doubt she'll care less when she's older!

I wouldn't be happy with my DDs going into the men's loo tbh. Mainly because there's every chance there would be men using urinals, quite a gross thing for a little girl to see!

Their dad would.always take them to a disabled/baby change loo when they were little, now they go into the ladies' on their own age 6 and 8.

2nd there isn't a sign that says only for disabled people only that it is accessible for disabiled people.

I use them all the time but I'm quite badly VI and have IBS so it does make sense.s

So you think there is the remotest chance that the one person you pick to (..) is going to be a predatory opportunist paedophile?

My 4yo needs to pee. I don't have time to run a DRB/DBS check or to wait for Mary Poppins to turn up. I am not explaining to my young child that it's not ok for someone to touch their intimate area, and then plonk them with a complete stranger. That's crazy.

I've used the disabled toilets when looked after opposite sec DC of friends. If someone knocked I'd obviously leave so doing no harm.

So you're relying on someone outside the toilet knowing that no one inside is disabled and the should knock if they have an actual reason to need a disabled loo?

I've been asked by dads- I must have a safe looking face.Not to actually take a child to the loo, but to make sure she could open the door and reach the taps and find the way out. I can't see a problem.

I think it is a bit unfair to decide your small child can't manage the toilet by themselves and ask a stranger to look after them! I would run a mile!!

Men shouldn't be in the ladies loos.

Men with daughters obviously use the men's until daughter reliably able to wipe/use loo without assistance whereupon she uses the ladies on her own, and you do the same thing I used to with my DSs once they were old enough to use the men's unaccompanied (rules were straight into a cubicle, wash hands when you're done, don't talk to anyone and I'll wait right outside).

If girls are old enough to be embarrassed at going into the men's loos, I'd say they are old enough to be using the ladies on their own.

For those who have said they wouldn't like their DDs going in to the men's due to genitals on show, what do you think happens when their Dad does a wee in the cubicle?

You seem to have thrown a goady bomb into the arena and not returned OP

I remember recently being in the toilets at The Turner museum in Margate. A dad with two young girls hovered outside the ladies whilst the children went in. An unrelated mum saw his dilemma and offered to keep an eye on them. He was grateful.

I'm genuinely puzzled by what some people think goes on at urinals?

There is no spotlight, no willy waving contest, no dicks lighting up like light sabers to draw the eye automatically towards them.

You just walk in and guide the child straight to the cubicle. They're really not going to catch so much as a glimpse of a penis.

Not that it would kill them if they did momentarily....like for a split second see a penis or part of one.

If they're busting for the loo, that's all they'll be interested in.

(she didn't go into the cubicle but checked they were okay)

This is weird and inappropriate. They should go in the men's.

I haven't been in a men's loo since I was a child. But I'm pretty sure they don't all stand there waving their "things" around

Most men are perfectly decent and normal people. I'm sure they don't want a random child to see their genitals.

I would've thought if anything there would be less chance of men's loo seats being weed on. Presumably men who want to stand up would use the urinals. And perhaps fewer people use the cubicles than in the ladies'.

And to add, you can't ask a stranger to take your child to the loo. Do you really expect a stranger to wipe them?! Sorry but I wouldn't do that for a friend's child let alone a strangers.

Ah. I think "stranger danger" is bollocks.

I've never seen a man take his daughter into the womens loos!!

Perhaps you should ring your brother and say you got it wrong on this one and suggest he goes back to using the mens.

There is no spotlight, no willy waving contest, no dicks lighting up like light sabers to draw the eye automatically towards them.

Aw, you spoilsport. That was exactly what I thought went on in there!

because there the men are exposed at the urinals.
You do realise that when men are weeing, they are actually facing the urinals and standing very close to them. They don't stand half way across the room with their willies on show.

For the 2 posters who think that men should hand their daughters over to a female complete stranger to go to the toilet, do you also think that mums of boys should hand their boys over to a male complete stranger when they need the toilet?

It is an utterly bizarre suggestion that men should take their daughters into the ladies, or that parents should hand their children over to strangers.

As the adult, you go into the right toilet for your sex and your child goes with you until they are old enough to manage by themselves.

I've been asked by dads- I must have a safe looking face.Not to actually take a child to the loo, but to make sure she could open the door and reach the taps and find the way out. I can't see a problem.

Nor can I if the child is completely comfortable with that, considering the child is the only person that matters.

But for the children who aren't, or the children who are too young to manage to wipe etc, they'll need their Dad to accompany them.

If a stranger asked me to supervise their child going to the loo I'd say no. I don't have my own children. I certainly don't want anything to do with some random child's bodily functions!

They need to go with their parent until they are old enough to be trusted to wipe properly and to clean up and flush after themselves.

I think I'd be quite annoyed if my disabled parent/friend couldn't use the loo because a parent was in there with a child, but I might be bu. misses point of thread