To think that Boris is going to be p****d?

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Just been announced that Michael Gove is not going to endorse Johnson and is going to run as leader himself.

I reckon Boris is going to be right pissed off.

Who would you chose to be leader?

And I would like it if people would stop saying 'Boris' as if he is a bit fun and cuddly. He is a self-serving, amoral cunt.

Three weeks ago, a poster was banging on that she had to vote Leave because Slovenia had rejected a gay marriage bill and she couldn't possibly share an organisation with a country which had those values.

Today, a person who rejected a gay marriage bill is standing as UK prime minister. And we don't even all get a vote on him.

Hope she's pleased.

THIS is why all this diversionary scapegoaty shit is bad. Not just bad for the scapegoats, but because it diverts attention away from the people who actually do have power over us.

I suspect Mrs Gove has had something to do with this.

In his defence, I do believe Goves' justice reforms were considered an improvement on Chris Graylings, and he had some respect in the department (Private Eyes passim).

In some ways, moving Theresa May from Home Secretary to PM could work for me if we got a credible Home Secretary. But the last Home Secretary anyone seems to have anything good to say was Willie Whitelaw (because, as Maggie famously said "We all need a Willie").

But I still think a General Election is needed. Or a WW2 style national government. Maybe Boris hasn't got to that chapter in his Ladybird book of Churchill yet ?

I know they say if you can remember the 90s you weren't there, but is there a tory MP somewhere with toothache ?

I can't see Nicky Morgan without thinking of that episode of The Thick of If when Nicola Murray accidentally puts herself in the running for PM. In fact, I can't see any of this without thinking of The Thick of It, but with added despair that there clearly isn't anyone as astute as Malcolm Tucker or even Julius Nicholson pulling the strings.

repealing the Human Rights Act

The only good thing is after 2015, some very heavyweight constitutional lawyers ripped that to shreds. The HRA was woven into the fabric of the Scots, Welsh and NI devolution processes, and cannot just be "repealed". It's an incredibly fiddly prospect, and would be opposed every step of the way by the devolved assemblies who - in the final analysis - would then enact their own version. Making England the only nation in the UK to not enjoy the same rights as its neighbours. It was also pointed out that if the UK were to withdraw from the EcHR it could lead to extraditions being refused, or massively delayed.

That's why you have heard fuck-all about the "British Bill of Rights" since 2015. Long grass. Like votes for prisoners.

Midsomer -BJ also had modest origins having been brought up on a
Council estate but got into Eton etc

And I would like it if people would stop saying 'Boris' as if he is a bit fun and cuddly. He is a self-serving, amoral cunt. Exactly

This is closer to Veep than The Thick of It .

Theresa May is Selina Meyer

And I would like it if people would stop saying 'Boris' as if he is a bit fun and cuddly. He is a self-serving, amoral cunt.

Oh, you mean Alex ? Or "de Fallafal" ?

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

potential US presidential candidate ?

YY derxa He's calculating, manipulative and power-mad, his playful buffoon 'act' seems to have made people prefer him over Gove. I never thought I'd say this but I'd honestly campaign to keep Cameron for the meantime.

Totally agree with Midsommermurderess - May has made it clear she wants to revoke the Human Rights Act, an event which if successful doesn't bear thinking about.

I am genuinely quite fearful at the moment and the people putting themselves forward just underline how much I distrust, well loathe, the Tory party

becky

Same here

I think thats why im so fascinated with the whole thing, i keep thinking that malcom tucker or the fucker are just out of camera shot

And have yiu seem the farage/twar ohoto? Reminds me of nicola and "i am bent"

And personally i only give a shit if poiticians lie about politics...dont give a shit about any "lies" they may feel they have to say in their home life

Ah - x post, Lurking.. thank you, that has put my mind to rest slightly although I am still worried about the turn things seem to be taking.

May has just said she won't withdraw from ECHR as there's 'no parliamentary majority' for it.

Quite the turnaround, and easily reneged on.

God, I wish Cameron would stay. I know he's not to everyone's taste but I don't want any of the others.

Stephen Crabb looks far and away the best candidate.

Stephen Crabb

May has just said she won't withdraw from ECHR as there's 'no parliamentary majority' for it.

That's true. It's a great soundbite, but much harder to actually do. It's been looked at very deeply by some big legal brains. Quite aside from the message it would send out, allowing even Russia to sneer at us (yes, they signed), and having to redraft the devolution legislation for Scotland, NI and Wales, it would lead to a world where any extradition to the UK could require the UK to demonstrate that UK human rights are up to the same standard as the extraditing country. Very easy when you are in the EcHR. Very hard outside it. We'd end up in the situation where a murdered flees the UK and can't be returned for trial because the UK can't guarantee their human rights. Not a theoretical situation. There's at least one case where a UK judge refused to extradite a suspect to the US because the prison conditions were so bad as to be a violation of the prisoners human rights.

And - curiously enough - Theresa May did block the extradition of Gary McKinnon to protect his human rights. So who knows what the fuck is really going on ?

Quite the turnaround, and easily reneged on.

Yes ... and no, I think .

Theresa May / Hillary Clinton / Angela Merkel / Nicola Sturgeon / Yvette Cooper

Aside from Angela and Nicola, these are all contenders at present but it could be an interesting year.

With any luck Gove will split Boris' vote and an alternative will be elected. I know little about May but she seems a far better alternative to those two donkeys right now.

Britain lead the drafting process for the European Convention on Human Rights after the war. It would be somewhat embarrassing to withdraw from the ECHR !

"British MP and lawyer Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe, the Chair of the Assembly's Committee on Legal and Administrative Questions, was one of its leading members and guided the drafting of the Convention."

May or Cameron I've always said that Johnson is a lying self serving twat. I'd like to see Nick Clegg or Tim Farron in charge though really.

Why does everyone have it in for Boris, he is quite fun, and he is quite cuddly. When did MN become so nasty.

"Midsomer -BJ also had modest origins having been brought up on a
Council estate but got into Eton"

Is that a joke?! BJ was not brought up on a council estate!

Howling at Boris Johnson having modest origins and being fun and cuddly.