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To urge you now more than ever to support your country

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sunnyspot · 28/06/2016 18:57

Not a discussion on Leave v Remain. That s been done to death.
Now that the decision has been made, and our economy is going to take a massive hit, do you think it is reasonable to ask people to support our own economy now and buy goods which are actually manufactured in Britain?

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2StripedSocks · 02/07/2016 09:48

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OurBlanche · 02/07/2016 10:01

Sounds like a lot of determined to be pissed offness there, 2StripedSocks.

Imported strawberries aren't picked ripe, are grown in polytunnels and are also tasteless. Same for imported apples, pears, cherries, etc.

Farm shop strawberries are expensive as they are grown outdoors, picked ready to eat and have a very short shelf life - mere hours.

If you don't want to pay for them, fine. But as they are a very seasonal treat that many people enjoy why shouldn't UK farmers grow them? Or are you suggesting that UK food should only be cheap, long lasting and boring? meh

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OurBlanche · 02/07/2016 10:11

UK farmers can grown them but they can't stamp their feet and demand people pay for them. Not seen any of them do that, here or in RL!

As an aside, much of that fresh fruit and veg in Lidl is UK sourced...

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10484622/Sunday-interview-Lidls-UK-boss-Ronny-Gottschlich.html

www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/20/lidl-makes-fruit-and-veg-pledge-to-back-british-farmers

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OurBlanche · 02/07/2016 10:26

Fine. And I shall continue to spend locally, pay a little bit more for produce but offset that against the petrol I would have used driving to a supermarket.

And, as we have mentioned them, I will also buy some strawberries at £2.50 a medium sized punnet at our local greengrocer rather than the £2.00 large punnet in the Coop... cos they taste nicer and are grown about a mile away Smile

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mynamesnotMa · 02/07/2016 12:36

I would if I cold but we what exactly do we make any more?

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JoffreyBaratheon · 02/07/2016 14:01

Maybe we can take back utilities in public ownership (as they were all sold off - many now in the hands of French etc companies). ;o)

Ah no sorry our tory overlords wouldn't approve...

Nothing much is manufactured here because the tories smashed manufacturing industries. Someone I knew worked in mineral valuation (ie: visiting coal mines, quarries etc and assessing how much taxes they should pay) and told me that during their extensive tour of mines in the North it was patently obvious they were being closed for dogma - as there was still plenty of coal down there. But we were told there wasn't. Fools believed it, like fools believed Farage would give the NHS hundreds of millions of £s per week...

HolesInTheFloor · 02/07/2016 21:35

I really wouldn't be supporting Nissan if you want to help the British economy. They won't be here for much longer. You heard it here first!

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MaidOfStars · 02/07/2016 22:02

And if you live in Kent, that counts as local.

However, I do not live in Kent. Like Blanche, I buy local. Whatever 'local' means,

varvara · 02/07/2016 22:14

Sorry, haven't read the whole thread. Scottish poster here. Just want to say I wish other Scottish posters would stop with the self -righteous stuff. This "Scotland voted Remain, England voted leave" stuff - like the electorate in Scotland and England is this single entity, as opposed to millions of people all with their own reasons for how they voted. Plenty people in England and Wales voted remain. Plenty people up here voted leave - over a million. The "us" (Scotland) and "them" (England and Wales) mentality is making a depressing situation worse. We're not so different. People up here who feel desperate and excluded by mainstream politics just have a different outlet for their frustration, e.g. Scottish Nationalism. But 38% voted for Brexit here. Does a margin of 14% REALLY make us sooo much more virtuous than those nasty English folk? I don't think so. A friend of a friend from Easter Europe got racially abused in town the other day, asked why they were still here. We really don't have that much to be superior about.

pointythings · 02/07/2016 22:26

DD and I were going through Sainsburys today and deliberately buying fruit and veg from areas that voted Remain as much as possible. Does that count as supporting your country?

LurkingHusband · 03/07/2016 11:07

Someone I knew worked in mineral valuation (ie: visiting coal mines, quarries etc and assessing how much taxes they should pay) and told me that during their extensive tour of mines in the North it was patently obvious they were being closed for dogma - as there was still plenty of coal down there

Mines weren't closed because we ran out of coal. They closed becauee it cost too much to get it out. If you want to pay 3,4x the going rate just to "buy British" then I suspect you are in a minority. Besides, coal isn't very popular for the environment.

Just5minswithDacre · 03/07/2016 11:40

DD and I were going through Sainsburys today and deliberately buying fruit and veg from areas that voted Remain as much as possible. Does that count as supporting your country?

What is an "area that voted remain" exactly? And why would you want to support them specifically?

Accepting domestic political approval expressed via fruit buying is at all rational;

Most areas were split 40:60 at most, a few in the order of 30:70. So you're disregarding a LOT of voters who voted your way.

And it wasn't FPTP so all votes counted equally nationally.

pointythings · 03/07/2016 13:33

I didn't vote, because I'm an EU immigrant. I bought Scottish raspberries and strawberries because Scotland overwhelmingly voted Remain. Why I want to support them over areas that didn't? Should be a bit obvious, really. As I've mentioned on other threads, my daughters have been told to 'go home' - only not in such polite terms. They were born here. Forgive me for being a bit miffed about all the rampant xenophobia that's out there right now.

Just5minswithDacre · 03/07/2016 13:56

pointy did you not read or not comprehend?

REGIONS did not vote. People did.

Just5minswithDacre · 03/07/2016 13:57

And xenophobic arseholes are xenophobic arseholes. It's not the same as euroscepticism.

mrsfuzzy · 03/07/2016 14:12

we should be supporting our countries producers regardless. when i read the title i thought war had been declared Grin !

Helmetbymidnight · 03/07/2016 14:17

The people of Sunderland decided they didn't want to work for Nissan - so why on earth would I buy Nissan?

MangoMoon · 03/07/2016 14:22

The people of Sunderland decided they didn't want to work for Nissan - so why on earth would I buy Nissan?

I must have missed that vote!

All I have heard is that the people of Sunderland voted to leave the EU.

How on earth did their poll as to whether they want to work for Nissan or not get overlooked in the national news?!

Helmetbymidnight · 03/07/2016 14:28

It was on the news- Nissan begged their 6000 employees and families to vote remain- the employees interviewed said they preferred their freedom and others said they could easily get other jobs. Sunderland voted 71% brexit - despite the new eu funded technology centre too. Apparently Sunderland have taken back control and don't need jobs or money. Yay.

MangoMoon · 03/07/2016 14:38

Nissan begged their 6000 employees and families to vote remain

There was & is more to the EU debate than Nissan though.

Why did Nissan as a company think, even for a second that their workers were not free people, with a free mind & a free vote?

Why would, or indeed should, an employer control the votes of its employees?

So, the people of Sunderland didn't in fact 'vote against Nissan' it voted against the EU.