To ask why JC won't resign for the good of the party

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Could anyone explain why JC won't resign given that Labour has a strong chance of winning a possible Autumn general election, if but only if Labour has a strong leader.

Thing is, Show - in the middle between Blair and Corbyn is not really left wing, or even socialist. Some of us want our socialist Labour Party back.

Thebathroomsink they aren't ignoring him as an irrelevance - they are 'ignoring' him (filing to report what he does/says) because they are worried and font want people to know the truth about him..
Thunderbumsmum being 'anti-establishment' isn't immature! It's recognising that the dates is set up to benefit a small part of the population and objecting to that. You know, hoping for dourness and equality of opportunity.

Dates? System...

If you want to change things then change the system. Don't make a big deal of complaining about it from the outside when you can make it different from the inside out - you need to engage to effect change, not potter about on your allotment muttering about mandates. Being 'anti establishment' is a teenage way of saying 'look at me! I'm special!'. Being able to communicate your ideas and engaging with different ideas is a more effective and, yes, mature way to proceed. An 'us and them' culture, which is what is currently splitting the Labour Party, is extremely unhelpful.

cardibach - how's about this truth then? uk.businessinsider.com/jeremy-corbyn-paid-iran-press-tv-tortured-journalist-2016-6?r=US&IR=T

Or the truth that, for all Corbyn's twaddle about loyalty, he has been a major player in a coup against a Labour leader?

His office are doing a really good spin job, aren't they?

And YY Thunderbumsmum - what good are principles if you can't put them into practise? Not that Corbyn actually has principles, of course.

Politics has moved more to the centre society has changed drastically from when the Labour Party was first formed

There is a Socialist Labour Party, the Labour Party was influenced heavily by socialist ideas it was not a purely socialist party

Political discourse hasn't moved to the centre.

It has moved to the right.

I'm not against socialist ideas at all. In fact, I wish we had more left leaning ideas to debate. Honestly, all I have seen from Jeremy Corbyn that has been at all effective is his tacit approval of anti semitism. It is not left wing ideas I object to (apart from the quite frankly idiotic demonisation of Israel and glorification of Hamas murdering children in their beds) but he is just so fucking ineffective