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To ask why JC won't resign for the good of the party

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AndNowItsSeven · 26/06/2016 18:07

Could anyone explain why JC won't resign given that Labour has a strong chance of winning a possible Autumn general election, if but only if Labour has a strong leader.

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msrisotto · 26/06/2016 18:10

Wasn't he elected leader?

RusholmeRuffian · 26/06/2016 18:11

Perhaps he'd be a stronger leader if other Labour MPs stopped trying to undermine their democratically elected leader.

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AndNowItsSeven · 26/06/2016 18:11

Yes but Labour will never win a general election under Corbyn's leadership. He must no this but doesn't seem to care.

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AndNowItsSeven · 26/06/2016 18:12

I would love Corbyn to be PM but it's never going to happen.

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Kimononono · 26/06/2016 18:13

There is a specific topic for this stuff ->>

tiredandhungryalways · 26/06/2016 18:14

The only people thinking of themselves are the mp's who can't accept JC has been elected leader. The party need to get behind him and acknowledge he can win votes as he already has done

TheWeeBabySeamus1 · 26/06/2016 18:14

Why would Labour not win with Corbyn? I'd vote for him over any of the other choices.

ghostyslovesheep · 26/06/2016 18:17

he's elected by party members - maybe it's for them to decide not a bunch of MP's with chippy shoulders

I'm disappointed in him - I voted for him - would I vote him out - depends on who the alternatives are - I think he is a very principled and kind man - I am not sure he has the ability to get his message across

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AndNowItsSeven · 26/06/2016 18:18

Because labour needs to be more centred in order to win old Tory votes.

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DoctorTwo · 26/06/2016 18:20

Why should he resign? According to Hodge it's because he didn't galvanise support for Remain. 75% of votes cast in his constituency voted Remain, 62% voted to Leave in Hodge's constituency. They're shit stirrers who can't stand having a populist in charge, and want another Blair.

Look at the polls: Labour are up since Thursday.

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AndNowItsSeven · 26/06/2016 18:21

Ghostly a lot of member joined only to vote Corbyn in knowing he wouldn't be able to win an election.
I really like Corbyn and think he would make an excellent pm sadly not enough of the electorate would agree.

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OohMavis · 26/06/2016 18:21

I'd vote for him, and so would a lot of people I know.

Why, exactly, is he unelectable? Surely that's for party members to decide? The party members who elected him in the first place?

SonicSpotlight · 26/06/2016 18:21

There are two Labours. One has strong left wing principles, the backing of the unions, loves Corbyn and has lots of grass roots support that is very active online. The other has the PLP (the MPs), the ability to attract the swing voters it needs to be elected and wants to be in government.

I think Corbyn would be perfectly happy to stay leading the opposition for the next decade.

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AndNowItsSeven · 26/06/2016 18:23

So you think a Labour win under Corbyn is a possibility Doctor?

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AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 26/06/2016 18:25

I completely lost all faith in labour years ago, JC is making me consider given them a second chance. If he resigns and it goes back to being the "tory's good cop" party again I'm done.

I think there are a lot of people who feel like me, people who had given up on labour but JC is winning us back, labour could lose us all again without JC

ghostyslovesheep · 26/06/2016 18:27

I think he could win if he allowed a team to work with him and raise his profile and 'spin' his message - he wont - for good principled reasons, but it means he seems silent on most things

I joined the party in 1985 - I didn't join to vote him in - I'm not sure how I would vote if we where asked to chose again

I would love a good strong left wing party but it needs to be one the first and foremost gets it's message across

yorkshapudding · 26/06/2016 18:27

Because he was chosen by labour party members and the majority of labour party members still support him. Perhaps he cares more about the feelings and opinions of his party members than he does about the MP's (mostly Blairites motivated by their own ambitions and self interest) who want him gone. I deeply admire him for that even though he wouldn't necessarily be my first choice as leader.

SilverDragonfly1 · 26/06/2016 18:28

Because he has principles. I know it's a bit hard to grasp after the last 20 years or so of political leaders!

SonicSpotlight · 26/06/2016 18:33

So you're happy with an ineffective but strongly principled leader who will never have any say in government policy?

LittleLionHeart · 26/06/2016 18:33

Why don't you run after supper, Judas?

frikadela01 · 26/06/2016 18:37

MPs are supposed to represent their constituents, the very fact that the shadow cabinet are quiting and calling for his resignation and creating uncertainty and under in a time when stability and a bit of reassurance wouldn't go amiss just shows how self interested they are. It's all about their own political careers and not about us... the people that have them power in the first place. To that end I'm glad JC isn't Bowing to the pressure. Given that the Tory party is in disarray too I think any GE would likely result in a gun parliament, the whole things is fucked at the moment.

tabulahrasa · 26/06/2016 18:39

Maybe he realises that with the country on the verge of at least one huge constitutional change and with a government that's gone into hiding that a leadership contest could wait a few days at least? Hmm

Stripyhoglets · 26/06/2016 18:41

I didn't vote for him. I want to see a Labour government NOT a highly principled opposition with a no doubt highly principled leader. Labour needs to be in power to make life better for people in the areas that voted leave.

BuggerLumpsAnnoyed · 26/06/2016 18:42

He's not ineffective and people who say that show a shocking sense of ignorance about what has been going on over the last 9 months. He has been invaluable in the case for many government u-turns over unfair policy.

DoctorTwo · 26/06/2016 18:44

Do I think he can win a GE? Fuck yes. All the young people I know love him and would vote for him in a heartbeat. All the Labour voters my age would vote for him. Even me, and I haven't voted Labour since Blair decided to invade Afghanistan.

So, PLP, elect a Blairite leader and wave buhbye to power.