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I voted Leave but don't deserve abuse for it !!!!

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AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 20:57

Yesterday I voted to leave after months of thought about all the main issues regarding membership.

I decided to leave based on sovereignty, I don't want a closer EU/United States Of Europe. I don't want my son to be in an EU army.

Immigration and economics for me were lesser issues. But still influenced my vote.

The names on here and Twitter that have been directed at leave voters has astonished me.

I am not uneducated, racist or xenophobic. I simply want the best for my country and that IMO is leave and I am overjoyed with the victory today against all odds.

Maybe if those on the remain side looked more into the arguments instead of name calling it would have been a different result.

It shocks me that labour supporters on Twitter are saying these horrible names against leave voters, but they need us to get their seats in the north, I don't think it is a good idea to insult your own base.

Even on mumsnet rhetoric has been appalling, I have had posters say they can't bring themselves to speak to leave voting parents.

Why can't you just accept maybe that leave possibly has a better campaign/arguments.

This idea that many leave voters regret the vote is wrong, everyone I know who voted leave is in a joyous mode today.

Can we just move on now and accept the result instead of insulting 52% of the population.

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ManonLescaut · 24/06/2016 21:33

I do think I've done the best for my country absolutely I do

You do now, because you've no idea what the consquences will be, but you will see soon enough.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 24/06/2016 21:33

I don't care, I am moving to Canada in July. But I will come back in 5 years and say I Told You So.

NameChanger22 · 24/06/2016 21:33

EarthboundMisfit - you are correct. Can I also add selfish to your list?

Salmotrutta · 24/06/2016 21:33

I don't care about Scotland, if it leaves good riddance

Fantastic!

Except you will care if we get independence. Because that will be you saddled with the Tories for the foreseeable.

More austerity etc...

ManonLescaut · 24/06/2016 21:34

All of our working lives have improved through EU membership -annual leave, sick leave, mat leave, paternity leave, rights around dismissal, rights around striking...almost everything that brings humanity into "human resources" and our T&Cs. These rights can be torn apart now. It's already clear that the European Working Time Directive will go -you know that thing that stops a doctor operating on you when they have been awake for 3 days solid

This.

Alconleigh · 24/06/2016 21:34

You have fucked a nation and sold your children, and their children, down the river. You deserve every single piece of opprobrium that comes your way. We will never forgive. Or forget.

TaIkinPeace · 24/06/2016 21:34

You wanted your country back

I wanted it Forward for the sake of my children

who have been royally shafted by people who did not read the question

user1466795781 · 24/06/2016 21:35

MidnightAura

You would have to move off the pound but your GDP wouldn't get you into the Euro currency, you would have huge traffif to move imports/exports out through England or Engliah waters.

Scotlands already bad economic state would tank hard.

AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 21:35

Being stuck with the Tories is fine by me.

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Sunshineonacloudyday · 24/06/2016 21:35

user1466795781 you wot get what you want it was all propaganda to get you're vote the politicians have admitted that.

Armi · 24/06/2016 21:36

You voted for all this. This is what you wanted. Stop whining.

MidnightAura · 24/06/2016 21:36

*You would have to move off the pound but your GDP wouldn't get you into the Euro currency, you would have huge traffif to move imports/exports out through England or Engliah waters.

Scotlands already bad economic state would tank hard.*

I know. Its a terrifying prospect.

AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 21:36

I can't wait until they take off the EU flags.

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MancMum01 · 24/06/2016 21:37

Amy - Could you explain the economic benefits?

I do wonder if you have a grasp of basic numeracy based on your assertion that 52% of the population support the exit?

LaBelleOtero · 24/06/2016 21:37

I won't believe the rumours about an EU army until the EU make a statement. Supposed to be tomorrow or the next day isn't it? I'd happily make a bet against it except that I'm currently feeling like protecting every penny I own.

FirstWeTakeManhattan · 24/06/2016 21:37

I haven't spoken to one Brexiter today who had a coherent grasp of the enormity of what they have 'achieved.'

I understand that they had their 'reasons' to vote as they did, but it seems that many just do not understand the implications of what they have done.

It's incredibly sad for our children and their futures.

babybythesea · 24/06/2016 21:38

The remin campaign was vitriolic and nasty (from a pp).

See, that's what I thought about the Leave campaign. I thought, although Farage kept going on about Remain scaring people, that's what he was doing as well. The rhetoric about immigration and refugees was pretty disgusting, and that poster he put out with that line of people queuing was foul. I don't think either side came out of it looking like decent human beings.
But the Leave stuff felt to me like divide and conquer.

MrsLion · 24/06/2016 21:38

OP by voting leave you have just helped score one of the biggest own-goals in history.

Understandably there is a lot of passion, anger and frustration. Suck it up.

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AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 21:39

Do you think they will take the passports back to how they used to be.

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jacks11 · 24/06/2016 21:39

Nobody deserves actual abuse, but I think people are entitled to be angry at what they see as a complete disaster for them personally and for the country as a whole.

I posted this on another thread along similar lines:

I am aghast at the outcome of this referendum. I am saddened that we seem to have become a small-minded and inward looking nation. I also think that we are going to be very much poorer, in every sense of the word, and many will suffer because of this outcome. I am very worried about my future and about my child's future. I'm Scottish and live in Scotland and I think this just underlines how different our nations actually are. I know many in NI are really worried about where this leads them to.

The turbulence in the global markets, which hates uncertainty at the best of time is really worrying. They are in chaos and we really had better hope it will settle or we are in deep trouble. The banks could be in trouble if that happens, businesses will be in trouble. So will pension funds. There is no guarantee that it will stabilise soon and I haven't heard from anyone in the Leave camp about what there "Plan B" is should that be the case. All we here is "we think it will be fine" (whilst rubbishing anyone who says otherwise because "they are just making predictions", conveniently ignoring the fact they are doing the same). Everything may work out wonderfully (and I really hope it does) but I, for one, want to know what the plan would be should that not be the case.

Well, I say there has been no explanation of what they would do- I should exempt Boris from this statement, who has kindly said that if it should end badly he would apologise for getting it wrong....great! Boris apologising will make it all fine. The ego that underlies that statement is unbelievable. And this may be our future PM....

You only have to look at what S&P (and the other credit agencies) are planning- down-grading our triple A credit rating. If this happens it will cost more to borrow to finance our existing debt (which is considerable). That means greater austerity and/or higher taxes. There are some comments coming out of MPC suggesting interest rates could plummet in the short-term to 0% and may even drop into minus. This means you will have to pay banks to deposit money, not the other way round. In the longer term they are predicting significant rises in interest rates.

The governor of the Bank of England has already said we are going to have to spend more money in the next few weeks stabilising things than we give to the EU in a whole year. All that money that Boris and co have promised to the NHS, the farmers, the fishermen, scientific research and development and pretty much every other group who benefit from the EU- where is it going to come from? You can only spend it once. Something so many people seem to have totally ignored.

I was speaking to someone who deals with legal aspects of some science and tech firms- a number of them are very seriously putting in motion their "just in case" plans to leave. This means job losses in the UK and loss of future investment. I don't believe this will be the only sector where investment will be reduced. Lets not forget that science research and development, including in university research departments, is a net beneficiary in the UK, and this in itself pulls in further private sector investment.

The german finance minister has already said that they are going to look to actively attract the financial markets to Germany, that could be disastrous for our economy if they succeed. And make no mistake, the gloves will be off now. We are a direct competitor to the EU in way we were not before. There will be a trade deal, I have no doubt- but at what cost? If we want to trade, we may well have to pay large sums into the EU as Norway do. We will definitely have to comply with most of their standards and rules, but have no say in any of them. How does this benefit us?

The EU will not want to give us a gold-plated deal as they will not want leaving to look an attractive prospect. There is going to be a lot of bad feeling towards the UK and there is unlikely to be a lot of good will.

All in all, I just cannot believe this is going to be the golden utopia the Leave camp portray it to be and I dread the impact of our collective decision. Sorry for the essay.

fastdaytears · 24/06/2016 21:40

It really can get worse for you. Just wait.

JustSpeakSense · 24/06/2016 21:40

Democracy = the people have spoken

AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 21:40

Exactly

It's can't get worse for me, to be able to stop the EU sending us refugees is all I wanted and I think things will get better for the lower classes, sure it will hurt the london crowd but I don't care.

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