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I voted Leave but don't deserve abuse for it !!!!

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AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 20:57

Yesterday I voted to leave after months of thought about all the main issues regarding membership.

I decided to leave based on sovereignty, I don't want a closer EU/United States Of Europe. I don't want my son to be in an EU army.

Immigration and economics for me were lesser issues. But still influenced my vote.

The names on here and Twitter that have been directed at leave voters has astonished me.

I am not uneducated, racist or xenophobic. I simply want the best for my country and that IMO is leave and I am overjoyed with the victory today against all odds.

Maybe if those on the remain side looked more into the arguments instead of name calling it would have been a different result.

It shocks me that labour supporters on Twitter are saying these horrible names against leave voters, but they need us to get their seats in the north, I don't think it is a good idea to insult your own base.

Even on mumsnet rhetoric has been appalling, I have had posters say they can't bring themselves to speak to leave voting parents.

Why can't you just accept maybe that leave possibly has a better campaign/arguments.

This idea that many leave voters regret the vote is wrong, everyone I know who voted leave is in a joyous mode today.

Can we just move on now and accept the result instead of insulting 52% of the population.

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georgetteheyersbonnet · 24/06/2016 21:24

Amy but do you care that your country won't be Britain any more? No union jack?

The name on your passport will be something like The Kingdom of England and the Principality of Wales. Your flag will likely be some kind of St George's Cross with a Welsh dragon superimposed on it.

I am telling you what WILL happen if Scotland leaves. There is no other option. The country you voted for (the UK/Britain) will no longer exist except as a historical artefact of a name. You will have a new country, with a new name, and a new set of symbols.

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FrancesNiadova · 24/06/2016 21:25

Local Votes for Local People!

Welcome to Royston Vasey...
You'll never leave!

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Hamishandthefoxes · 24/06/2016 21:25

Ohgosh. I hope you stay that happy and don't end up totally fucked over.

Good luck.

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ManonLescaut · 24/06/2016 21:25

I decided to leave based on sovereignty, I don't want a closer EU/United States Of Europe. I don't want my son to be in an EU army

The horseshit on which some people have based their leave vote would be hilarious if the consequences weren't so dire.

Wouldn't it have been better to base your vote on something that's actually true?

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MrsSpecter · 24/06/2016 21:26

wasn't a malicious plan, I don't I think I've made Britain better.

So what on earth was your motivation to vote to leave? Confused

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user1466795781 · 24/06/2016 21:26

Why do Scotland think they would be better off outside the Uk, they would need to setup their own currency they wouldn't qualify to enter the euro currency, import and export will cost a fortune they have no eady way to ship to mainland europe.

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twirlywoo69 · 24/06/2016 21:27

Cake anyone?...

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Marynary · 24/06/2016 21:27

I am sick of the backlash people get simply for having a different opinion.

That is the most stupid thing I have heard all day. The "backlash" is not due to a difference in opinion.Hmm It is due to the fact that you have voted for something that will plunge the UK into recession.

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AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 21:27

You watch EU army is coming soon. The Eu is up for a fight as well look at how it overthrew a democratic govt in Ukraine.

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Papergirl1968 · 24/06/2016 21:27

Absolutely right mountaintoclimb.
I'm been dismayed at the sheer nastiness on some threads, including this one, all day.
It was a democratic vote. The leave campaign won. Those who voted to remain don't like it. Ok, I get that. No need for the swearing and bitching.

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Cornishclio · 24/06/2016 21:27

I voted remain. You voted as per your democratic right and I won't abuse you for that. Coming on here expecting sympathy for having people confront you about what many of us see as a disastrous decision is another matter. Quite frankly I don't care about that. You might find daily mail readers more sympathetic

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MidnightAura · 24/06/2016 21:27

Upon further reading, yes you absolutely do deserve to be told you are a muppet for voting out. Well done.

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AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 21:28

wasn't a malicious plan, I don't I think I've made Britain better.

So what on earth was your motivation to vote to leave? confused

Sorry I do think I've made Britain better.

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babybythesea · 24/06/2016 21:28

Two things.
The first is a genuine question.
Now that Farage has said that the claims about the money that they would put into the EU were 'a mistake' (I call it lying but let's go with his term for the moment), and also that Hannan has said that, again despite the Leave campaign's claims, there won't be much that can happen in terms of immigration, how do Leave voters feel?
I voted Remain and was passionately so. I am bitterly angry that two of the key claims in the campaign have already been dismissed as untrue by the people who put them out there and used them as campaigning material but I haven't spoken to any leave voters about it. I assume that the claims may have swayed people, and if so, how do you feel about it now? Would you have voted differently or not?

Second, more a point than a question. If people say they researched it and thought it through, then ok. You have a different opinion but that's ok. I spent hours researching it. I looked at how many laws were passed in the EU and how many in Britain and compared. I tried to find independent sources for the economics of it all. I looked at as many facts and figures regarding immigration, population estimates etc as possible. And I looked at the environmental information (the thing that concerns me most and the thing which barely was mentioned). And I voted remain.

But talking to a couple of leave voters round here, they didn't research. They are worried about immigrants taking their jobs (we are not in an ethnically diverse area - the only immigrant parent in my Dd's class is my husband, a Kiwi!). And that's what they voted on. They are friends, we discussed it, it's not an assumption. One said "I don't understand the economy but I know that if I can't find a job it's not fair if an immigrant gets it instead". So while I have refrained from name calling, I have found that people I know who voted out, and discussed it with me, did so based on just one issue and I hate that having read everything I could, I have ended up with people who didn't bother to widely inform themselves dictating my future.
I have also found two things particularly distasteful. One was the FB meme that several of them posted saying 'Britain won two world wars by ourselves. We can survive outside Europe' or something along those lines. I found this crass beyond belief. It is so utterly disrespectful to the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians, etc etc who died fighting alongside British soldiers. We did not win the war alone and to pretend we did stamps all over their memory. This to me is every bit as hateful as the calls of racism which are everywhere today.
Second, I have now been accused several times of having no pride in my country for voting in. I take issue. I am extremely proud of my country. I am proud to be English and British. But I happen to think we functioned better as part of a team. I work in a team at work. It in no way diminishes my sense of myself as an individual, it just means I can be more effective, working alongside others. I think Britain had more to offer the world as part of the EU. I am a bit ashamed that the far-right across Europe are now using Britain as a beacon of hope. And I don't think there's anything unpatriotic about that.

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PeggyMitchell123 · 24/06/2016 21:29

agree some of the replies on here are vile. We are democratic country and ultimately leave won fair and square with the majority vote. Becoming a playground bully with name calling and attacks is not going to change the result.

If anything be upset with the 28% of the population who did not vote.

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BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 24/06/2016 21:29

LadyStarkOfWinterfell said what I was about to say, sometimes it's nice to think of what's best for the country rather than yourself. But that's yesterday's philosophy apparently.

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EarthboundMisfit · 24/06/2016 21:30

I think people who voted Leave are reckless, deluded, stupid or all of the above.


Whoops.

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MidnightAura · 24/06/2016 21:31

Why do Scotland think they would be better off outside the Uk, they would need to setup their own currency they wouldn't qualify to enter the euro currency, import and export will cost a fortune they have no eady way to ship to mainland europe.

I can't speak for all of Scotland naturally but myself and my family don't feel this way. We are dismayed at the result like the rest of you.

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AmyWatt1972 · 24/06/2016 21:31

I do think I've done the best for my country absolutely I do.

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user1466795781 · 24/06/2016 21:31

georgetteheyersbonnet

Union jack just remove the white cross stripe the red coss one will stay

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ManonLescaut · 24/06/2016 21:31

As a mid 20's person on zero hours that has to compete with immigrants that will work under min wage for cash in hand, I voted leave and am happy too, it can't get worse for us mid 20's underclass. Worst thing that can happen is all those college degree people will feel the hurt with us and their house prices will drop well boo hoo try getting a mortage on a zero hour contract. None of this will be worse for us there is a chance for hope things will get better now for the british working classes

Unfortunately this seems to be a common misapprehension. With economic uncertainty, business relocation, loss of investment, potential recession comes austerity. The people worst hit by the economic fallout of the leave vote will be the working classes. There will higher unemployment, higher interest rates, higher prices, more 0 hour contracts which the Tories favour, no EU protection for workers' rights, no EU support for economically deprived areas such as Cornwall, Wales and Tees, and a greater squeeze on state services including benefits, education and health. You think it can't get worse - it can get worse and it will.

If you voted thinking you were going to improve your lot, this is a massive own goal. The reality will dawn quite quickly.

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PaulDacresMicroPenis · 24/06/2016 21:32

They're not listening georgette begone with your pesky facts. I wonder how long it'll take for Nicola to be bounced into another indy ref by an unscrupulous rival? After all that's all it took to start this shitstorm & now look where we are.

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 24/06/2016 21:32

Everyone who voted Leave made a huge mistake and did not really understand the issues or the impact it will have. They fell prey to the unsupported arguments put forward by the Leave campaign which were predicated in racism, xenophobia and nimbyism.

If you didn't hear me I will shout:

YOU FUCKED UP.

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MrsSpecter · 24/06/2016 21:32

Sorry I do think I've made Britain better.

Apologies, i missed out one of the 'I's which gave it a different meaning.

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Aspergallus · 24/06/2016 21:32

You sound like a self interested arse OP, perhaps that's why people are being unpleasant to you.

And incidentally you have not made your children's lives better.

All of our working lives have improved through EU membership -annual leave, sick leave, mat leave, paternity leave, rights around dismissal, rights around striking...almost everything that brings humanity into "human resources" and our T&Cs. These rights can be torn apart now. It's already clear that the European Working Time Directive will go -you know that thing that stops a doctor operating on you when they have been awake for 3 days solid.

So basically you've sold your kids out, giving them shitty working conditions for the sake of some mythical ideas about the EU army. That's why Leave voters seem thick- giving up some fantastic rights hard won through EU membership for nonsense ideas which were never true.

And then...following the monumentally stupid act of voting Leave, you want sympathy for sensible people being pissed off with you? Insult to injury doesn't cover it.

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