Regarding gueens birthday

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I'm seeing more amd more ridiculous "God save the queen" type posts on Facebook. Aibu to be sick and tired of it all. She's 90, big deal, lots didn't get to that age because of a lifetimes poverty and hard work. I mean real work not signing a few papers and getting chauffeured about.

Dallas what a load of drivel. I wasn't aware that you had to believe in the monarchy to be in the forces, an oath of allegiance doesn't make it so. But things like that make me want the monarchy abolished more than ever. oath of allegiance, yeah right. On paper maybe but you can't tell me that everyone in the armed forces believes in all that nonsense. Prince Harry was more a hindrance in the army, he made the others a target and wasn't allowed to do the same things. I'm not denying he didn't want to, but he's the queens grandson, it was never going to happen. I'm proud of our armed forces, I've got family members in them, but it's nothing to do with the queen.

sparkling what did I expect? probably just like this, there's quite a few agree with me too.

usual no, just a bit less misery

Yes OP. They always end up 'just like this'.

I bet they'd all rather be in a nice 3 bed new build

Castles and palaces are draughty, and it's a hell of a long way to go put your phone on charge!

I do wish you'd stop talking about something you have NO experience of.

Prince Harry was a very good soldier, a leader of men, a round peg in a round hole. His peers liked him, his subordinates followed him, his superiors tipped him for Command. His work with injured military personnel is second to none; he is a fantastic ambassador for Invictus and shows great presence and strength of character. He did two very successful operational tours, got down and dirty with the boys and carried out the same tasks, same duties, same career progression as any other officer of the HCR.

Yes I swore an allegiance, and yes I believed in it wholeheartedly:

I ............... swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors and that I will as in duty bound honestly and faithfully defend Her Majesty, her heirs and successors in person, crown and dignity against all enemies and will observe and obey all orders of Her Majesty, her heirs and successors and of the generals and officers set over me
(You don't have to swear by God, but I did)

It meant something to me then, and means something still. And does so for most of the soldiers I know. Sure, I expect there will be some that don't feel the same way, but that doesn't mean my post was 'drivel' - merely something that you don't understand.

Prince Harry was more a hindrance in the army, he made the others a target and wasn't allowed to do the same things. I'm not denying he didn't want to, but he's the queens grandson, it was never going to happen.

The more frothy you get, the more unhinged your ranting becomes.

I do believe Harry was a very able & fully active Apache pilot & gunner in Afghan.
He also carried out the exact same work as an air controller on his first tour until the media blackout was breached.

But hey, you know best....

Yes...but does that mean people who are Republicans can't join the Forces if they don't agree with the Monarchy?

I don't know, I've never met one (or never had a conversation about it with one). It's not like it's something that comes up in conversation at the bar - we've generally got better stuff to talk (and drink) about

Personally I would think 'hypocrite' but that's personal, like I said. How it plays out in real life Who knows?

If the elected Government gave you an order and the Queen did not want it to go ahead, who would you obey

My CO.

Who ultimately is the Military responsible to? The Queen as unelected Head of State or the Government and the Prime Minister?

The Ministry of Defence.

"Who ultimately is the Military responsible to? The Queen as unelected Head of State or the Government and the Prime Minister?"

Both.

Oath of Allegiance is to the monarch. The Prime Minister leads the Monarch's Government, so no real distinction.

"The Ministry of Defence."

Which is directed by the Secretary of State, who is in turn directed by the Cabinet, where the buck stops with the a Prime Minister, who leads the Government on behalf of the Monarch.

Good grief Dallas such intense devotion and pride....the queen would be delighted with you.

"I've always wondered what would happen if the Monarch refused to sign an Act of Parliament."

Then it wouldn't become law.

But it's inconceivable that that would happen, even though theoretically it could.

Good. The feeling is mutual.