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Regarding gueens birthday

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seagaze · 11/06/2016 14:46

I'm seeing more amd more ridiculous "God save the queen" type posts on Facebook. Aibu to be sick and tired of it all. She's 90, big deal, lots didn't get to that age because of a lifetimes poverty and hard work. I mean real work not signing a few papers and getting chauffeured about.

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MrsSpecter · 12/06/2016 11:01

but to say the queen or any of them have worked hard all their lives is ridiculous

Again, not what I said.

seagaze · 12/06/2016 11:11

"despite having also worked hard during her life."
you said that mrsspectre

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MrsSpecter · 12/06/2016 11:13

Exactly.

MrsSpecter · 12/06/2016 11:16

because i know i'll have to expand. I said she has worked hard during her life. Meaning at times during her life she has worked hard. No-one, but no-one needs to work hard for 90 years to justify their existence. She has worked, she has worked hard, she continues to work at 90 years old. You have no idea whether she finds the work hard or not. Quite frankly it doesnt matter whether you or anyone thinks she does. She doesnt have to find it hard, hell she doesnt even have to work. But she does.

seagaze · 12/06/2016 11:17

We'll just agree to disagree, you think she works hard, I don't. Nothing else to be said.

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MrsSpecter · 12/06/2016 11:18

You seem intent on misrepresenting my words. I think she works. Whether that work is hard is down to personal opinion.

seagaze · 12/06/2016 11:23

You say she doesn't have to work, but she does. I'll say it again, it's not work, she keeps busy. She doesn't need to, maybe it's a glorified sense of her own importance, but if it was hard work she wouldn't do it.But when you say she's worked hard.....sigh.....it can be made to look that way so easily, because they call it work, when really she gets to do things and visit places others would love to do. Put it another way, when we go on holiday, it's a holiday, when the royals go away they call it work. I refuse to be taken in by the hype.

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InCrowCountryIDance · 12/06/2016 11:24

SelfLoadingFreight Well that escalated quickly...

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 12/06/2016 11:33

I'm with you. We'd all live to 90+. If we never had to do a days "work" I'm our natural. I remember someone saying to me . They're just glorified dolites, because they don't do anything, and I can't for the life of me remember who, not that it matters.
Also Why is Lizzie Bibbin not charged Bed room tax. I'm sure there's more than a few spare rooms in all of her castles.
However all that said. I don't think it's a life to be jealous of. I mean she can just rock up to Primark, can she or down to her local boozer, well she could I suppose.
Places just don't impress me. You could be a beggar or a King/Queen, but one things for sure. We're all equal in the eyes of God.
There's no Castles and crowns "up there" and if there are it won't be exclusive to the Windsors.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 12/06/2016 11:38

She works hard. Where about. My lovely mum worked 16 hours per day as a care worker, up until she took bad at age 61.
That's what you call hard work. No wonder she never made it to 90.

seagaze · 12/06/2016 11:45

They call what the duchess of Cambridge does work. It's ridiculous. When you compare the day of a typical working mother to what she does you see how ridiculous it is. A working woman's day starts early, breakfast for the children, prepare packed lunches, get children to school, go to work, do a full day's work, pick kids up from after school (if she's not able to get shorter hours), guick wiz round supermarket, get home and make tea. Do housework, help kids with homework, grab something forself to eat and maybe for partner, put wash on, get kids uniforms ready for next day. If she's lucky sit down and watch a bit of telly, fall into bed exhausted. Next day, do the same again.

Now compare that with what the duchess of Cambridge might do. Whatever it is it sure ain't work.Its pathetic to say it is.

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seagaze · 12/06/2016 11:55

lighthouse I know, my own lovely mum worked hard all her life, a similar age to the queen. She struggled when we were kids to keep us all warm and fed, never had much for herself, she was a true worker, who truly deserved her retirement. Like your mum she would have fared far better with her health if she had the healthcare the queen gets. I refuse to call what the queen does as "work" when I think about the work that my mum did. The queen enjoys good health (and good luck to her, I don't begrudge that) mainly because of her privileged and cosseted lifestyle. Most women arent as fortunate.

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seagaze · 12/06/2016 11:56

We're all equal in the eyes of God.
So true

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MrsSpecter · 12/06/2016 12:29

but if it was hard work she wouldn't do it

Again, bollocks. Plenty of people choose to do hard work that they dont have to do.

MrsSpecter · 12/06/2016 12:33

We'd all live to 90+. If we never had to do a days "work" I'm our natural.

She has worked. She was a military driver and mechanic during the war.

MrsSpecter · 12/06/2016 12:33

But dont let facts get in your way.

seagaze · 12/06/2016 12:44

She has worked. She was a military driver and mechanic during the war.
Wow! Grin A massive PR stunt during the war to show us that the royals were suffering and getting stuck in just the same as the rest of us......do you really fall for that one?.... But really I can't take you serious if you think the queen works hard. The "plenty" of people you're tLking about who don't need the money? if you mean millionaires, well they like to keep their hand in but they get others to do the hard work. They've probably not all had it handed to them on a plate either.

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newname99 · 12/06/2016 12:45

My mum had a signifant birthday a twhile ago, close to the queens age, she had to turn up, be guest of honour, stood around to pose for photos, was civil and polite.In addition she helped with setup, tidying up etc.

No way did she she consider this work.Similarly my mum helps with the community, church and looking after elderly people less able than herself.

She considers herself fortunate and certainly not hard working.I just wish we heard from the Royals how fortunate they are. How lucky they feel to be given the opportunities they have.Instead we get a stream of complaints about how tough it is.If it was that tough, compared to most people lives, they would give up the role...but the minor Royals lap it up since it's a privileged life.

seagaze · 12/06/2016 12:47

If facts were to get in the way we wouldn't be arguing, but to mention the role that she played during the war is massively clutching at straws. Is that the best you can do.

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DameXanaduBramble · 12/06/2016 14:02

So she drove a truck in the war. The War, the one from around 80 years ago? How relevant.

MrsSpecter · 12/06/2016 14:13

A war from around 80 years ago would have made her 10 years old Grin again, dont worry about the facts.

how relevant

it is relevant to the point that she worked, in response to a poster who said she hadnt worked a day. She has.

DameXanaduBramble · 12/06/2016 14:21

70 odd years ago then, that makes such a difference. Still clutching at straws.

Good job we don't live in Thailand and can actually express what we feel about the Royals without fear of being banged up.

HermioneWeasley · 12/06/2016 14:29

I'm a paid up republican, but even I think she's done a good job of the ridiculously outdated notion of a heriditary monarchy .

I can't understand all the fawning though, just leaves me baffled.

seagaze · 12/06/2016 15:06

Mrsspectre the fact that the queen worked for a period through the war years, apart from clutching at straws telling us this, is so irrelevant it's not worthy of a mention. It's just point scoring. I've already said it was one of their PR stunts that we are now so familiar with. A bit like when William and Harry were seen "working hard" with shovels when we had the terrible floods a few years ago. The palace know how easy it is to fool the gullible.

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derxa · 12/06/2016 16:48

A bit like when William and Harry were seen "working hard" with shovels when we had the terrible floods a few years ago
I actually think they would work hard.