.. to think that "I fear for my sons" and ..

[BertrandRussell]

"I feel sorry for my sons" are just new ways of saying "I hate feminists"?

YABU. It might be a new way of saying I hate man-haters who blame men for everything, but NAFALT.

Is that a new way? I've been hearing it for decades.

YANBU

YANBU

YANBU.

YABU to have a singular noun phrase ("I feel sorry for my sons") taking are, not is.

Two singular sentences connected by "and" and ellipsis take "are"

Challenge my feminism- but not my grammar!

Yabu , you got that leap of a conclusion from that

You're right, I didn't notice you were running the subject into the message and just read the message. Sorry.

Yabu I worry for my Dd and my ds for different reasons.

I didn't want my Dd to be pigeon holed because of her gender. I didn't realise until I had ds, how much it happens to boys as well.

So yes I do have concerns for my son as he grows. Just as I have concerns for my Dd.

Why that means I hate feminists, I have no idea

I agree.

I see what you mean branofthemist but most people saying things like this will mean

those darn feminists making life hard for boys

not

the patriarchy is bad for boys too, we all need feminism.

Depends on the context...

For example If you've gone back in time and king Herod is in town....

Exactly what Trills says.

I have two boys. I don't fear for them because the nasty feminists are trying to make sure things are more equal and men don't get a free pass to be misogynist fuckwits.

I fear for them because they're growing up in a society where boys and men are still encouraged to behave like misogynist fuckwits.

"It might be a new way of saying I hate man-haters who blame men for everything"

Absolutely this!

What Jassy said. I want to raise him to view women as equals yet am battling with casual and subtle (and also sometimes blatant) sexism all around us. I also think there's huge pressure on boys 'to be boys' still - so they're wussy if they cry or show their feelings and absolutely must play football to be considered a real boy etc.

Yanbu. Lazy, lazy thought process.

Well in some contexts I get it, education (though they do make up for it in their working lives, pay gap anyone?).

But usually no. So overall Yanbu.

I totally agree. I do fear for my son for many reasons, most of them linked to expectations of him created by the patriarchy.

I also feel really confident and proud of how he understands feminism and will be a better man for it. If you think feminism is the greatest threat to your sons, I'm sorry but you really need to do some reading.

Its why so many women now say "I'm not a feminist but..." They have made feminist a dirty word.

^^

What MrsDeVere said.

I have a DD and a DS, definitely think of myself as a feminist. But I worry far more about my DS. There is more protection for girls, boys are always seen as the aggressor.

MrsDeVere - that is one of the most sensible posts I have ever read on Mumsnet.

YABU.

If I had a son I would. Watching all the shit my brothers have had to put up with growing up, I wouldn't want that for my son.