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To think MIL is not racist....but so f*cking ignorant & shouldn't be around DCs

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rockacrybaby · 30/04/2016 22:01

I have a very mixed family but am more or less black. Coffee coloured. DH is white. Race has never been an issue on either side but his damn mother keeps on saying the most infuriating things and DH and FIL keeps on shrugging it off as "she's just from a different time/ it's just silly ignorance"

When I think about what my family has been through I just cannot dismiss it as such. I've done the whole "Oh come on" polite speech but she just laughs me off as being defensive: "Oh I don't mean you, you're different"

Examples:

On DD1 when she was just born: "Oh, she's beautiful - not even as dark as I expected."

A conversation about an advert urging people to foster BAME kids: "Yes well of course more of them are in the system they just don't value family as much as other people do they?"

On first meeting me : "Oh you're quite well spoken"

On me straightening DD1s hair as a one off for a special occasion: "Her hair is so much prettier like this - so much less unruly"

On DD saying "I'm from Jamaica!" because her nanna is from there and we just got back from a trip and she's proud of her mixed heritage : "Oh but not that much darling"

On black lives matter : "Why are they so angry? If you behave like a hooligan you will be treated as such"

It really upsets me and I don't want my DCs hearing this shit. Yes their dad is white but they are still people of colour and I don't want them growing up hearing the shit I heard which made me feel inferior at times.....from their own damn grandma!!!

I don't even want them thinking about bloody race but it's like she cant help herself from making comments which subtly remind them that they are different from their blond haired blue eyes cousins. They are subtle and not all the time but enough to plant a seed.

Told DH MIL's comments aren't getting better and I'd I refuse to fight with her about it. I've addressed her comments nicely several times and she just laughs me off. DH is being useless. Seems to think that because she's not in the KKK its all petty.

I don't know what to do.

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Lemonade1 · 02/05/2016 12:26
  1. You can't force dh not to go and get them
  2. Life IS messy sometimes and it's ok for kids to see that (not to know what went on with the ILs of course - just that things aren't rosy all the time. Parents are hungover, sad, ill, fed up, have had a row) so don't worry so much about that per se.
  3. You are feeling overly protective of your dc right now, understandably. But so is your dh and he wants to be with them in the fiercest way.
  4. This will all be ok if you support each other and show your kids stability and unity - not today but always.
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MrsJayy · 02/05/2016 12:26

Sorry but i have maybe missed a post where are your children?

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Haffdonga · 02/05/2016 12:28

Shit! That's one hell of an update. Sad

For now it's best that you and your dh do your very best to look after each other and your dcs with love and stability and leave your in laws to start thinking for themselves. You have both had a massive shock. But I'd suggest that it's your dh who is currently most vulnerable. You've discovered your in-laws aren't who you thought they were (a loss, but a bearable loss?) but your dh has discovered his own parents aren't who they purported to be, that his childhood family happiness was based entirely on lies, that his wife and children are secretly rejected by his apparently loving mother, that his entire family structure, childhood and 'self' are not what he believed. He's going to need a lot of support from you and possibly couselling to come to terms with that.

But that's for now. In the future now that the can of worms has already been opened there is maybe hope that some form of resolution is possible eventually. I don't know, but is racist behaviour triggered by hurt, guilt and anger easier to confront and resolve than racism based on sheer ignorance and stupidity?

Good luck to you and your family.

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rockacrybaby · 02/05/2016 12:29

Lemonade1 you know when beyonce jumps off the top of the building and drowns in the water? That's me right now.
You know when she smashes up the cars in the orange dress? That's me right now.
I feel like calling MIL and screaming
I LOVE MY BABY HAIR WITH BABY HAIR AND AFROOOOSSSSS I LOVE MY NEGRO NOSE WITH JACKSON FIVE NOSTRILS!!! I'VE GOT HOT SAUCE IN MY BAG FOR YOUR TASTELESS TOFU

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Haffdonga · 02/05/2016 12:33

Quick answer - why not try a compromise with dh that you'll pick the dcs up later today if he manages to look better and hold it together. But for now he's probably still over the limit and drvining is out of the question.

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rockacrybaby · 02/05/2016 12:34

MrsJayy with BIL and cousins wrecking his house having loads of fun. I don't want to drag them from that to this. Me shifting from blubbering to intense anger and DH staring into space looking lost.Sad

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Liska · 02/05/2016 12:35

I agree with everything Lemonade1 just said. Also, rocks, I feel like right now Beyonce made the whole damn thing just for you Brew

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rockacrybaby · 02/05/2016 12:35

Haffdonga
Exactly.

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Hissy · 02/05/2016 12:36

Your babies have been insulted, your h knows this and he wants them near him. He's processing this in his way. It's his family that's just imploded, he wants all those he loves to be drawn closer.

I see your perspective, but I see his too. I'd suggest letting him lead a bit on this and support him gently.

He's had a grenade thrown into his entire life.

I wish you were all nearer to me, I'd hug you all senseless.

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rockacrybaby · 02/05/2016 12:43

Hissy
I'll get in the shower too, will make us a lovely lunch, then we will both walk to outside inlaws house to get car. I'll sup press the urge to drive it through their front door after hearing she's been making racist remarks to DDs fucking face. I've had two glasses of wine last night and feel fine and will drive to BIL.

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InDogWeTrust · 02/05/2016 12:44

Fucking hell OP I'm so sorry for what you're going through xx
It's depressing how in 2016 these attitudes still flourish.

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Hissy · 02/05/2016 12:56

Sounds perfect love.

Indeed, don't drive the car into the house, that's one more hassle you'd have to sort out in getting a new car.

Head held high and know that you have a wonderful man there who loves and cares for you all.

Time and time again we see threads where mil is a bitch and the H does nothing to challenge her. Your man has really stepped up here. I know he's hurting, but this will pass with your love to help him.

I think the bil and Sil situation was a tough one too, nobody would want to repeat the shit they heard, they knew what it would do, but perhaps now that everything will be in the open ot won't be so hard for them to be supportive of you and your family.

This is a long journey that's started today.

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ScreenshottingIsNotJournalism · 02/05/2016 13:15

Kids'll know, and their imaginations will take over if they're not kept in the loop and what they imagine might be going on with the adults in hushed tones might be worse than what's actually going on (i.e. they might be wondering if it's one of their parents caught being a cheat rather than a grandparent) so the sooner it's explained to them the better, cause they know SOMETHING is happening… its always worse to not know than to know so I think it's okay to get them and I think it's okay for kids to see their parents in a vulnerable state too xx

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WhoseBadgerIsThis · 02/05/2016 13:59

Big hugs for you - what a complete mess MIL and FIL have made! I reckon go get the kids, tell them that you both have had a row with M+FIL over some unpleasant things they said, so you're a bit upset, but it's nothing for the kids to worry about, so lets have a lovely day watching films/going to the park/etc and think only about good things. They'll worry less if they know age-appropriate facts and don't think there's anything being kept secret

Right now things are horrible, but time passes and things improve, and other than idiot M+FIL, you have some wonderful family around you. Oh, and get planning a holiday to Jamaica!

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Mishaps · 02/05/2016 14:29

The children need to be with both of you. Shit happens in life and it will not harm them to see you are both feeling a bit wobbly just now. Obviously you cannot tell them the details - just say you are both feeling a bit fed up and how nice it is that they are there to cheer you both up. You will both perk up when the children are there - it's what kids do best - no time or space to brood with them around. Normality is what you and they need. Seeing you deal sensibly with feeling fed up is a good lesson for them. Do not wallow in all this - sorry if that sounds harsh - but you have to be the bigger people here as you have done nothing wrong. Take a deep breath and sort out a plan of action that will be best in the long term. Do nothing hasty.

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amarmai · 02/05/2016 14:47

your h is an adult,op. He will have to get his shit together and be the father and husband you and your dcc need. Hope you are not going to be left to do the heavy work on your own.

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Beeziekn33ze · 02/05/2016 15:36

Wishing you and your husband strength and wisdom to deal with this shattering situation 💐

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Atenco · 02/05/2016 15:42

Beeziekn33ze "Wishing you and your husband strength and wisdom to deal with this shattering situation"

I second that emotion

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LordoftheTits · 02/05/2016 16:08

Fuck me, this thread took a massive turn! Not at all what I expected Shock

I'm so sorry things are such a mess right now.

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ljny · 02/05/2016 17:34

Another one Wishing you and your husband strength and wisdom to deal with this shattering situation

Thinking of you, Op.

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BoatyMcBoat · 02/05/2016 19:10

Gosh, rock, that's a massive shock. I do feel immensely sorry for your dh, he's just discovered that his parents aren't even remotely who he thought they were. I'd also want to scoop you all up and go to Jamaica!

I'm so, so sorry for both of you. This is a horrendous thing.

Flowers

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ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 02/05/2016 19:18

Thinking of you, hope you can all snuggle up together tonight and hold on to each other

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rockacrybaby · 02/05/2016 20:42

Got outside to the house started the engine MIL came rushing out. Took the car window down and politely asked her if we could do anything for her. She waffled on about how she isn't racist and isn't this all a bit dramatic. DH told me to just drive even though MIL was standing by the car. I thought it would be a bit of a dramatic and exit so cut her off nicely and said nows not the time we have just come for the car. She waffled even more DH lost it and shouted JUST DRIVE THE FUCKING CAR so I started the engine again and drive off with MIL in mid speech pleading.
Got to BIL1s house where DCs are and was instantly feeling better once I say DCs. It's like a wieght was lifted. Same with DH. While the kids were being watched by BILs skimpy clothed au pair (seriously leggings are not trousers) we had a little powow in the kitchen and suprise suprise MIL called BIL1A this morning and spilled the beans. BIL1 has always been the black sheep no pun intended and never ever really liked his parents. Respected yes liked no. Said he doesn't care to be honest and sees FILs infidelity has hardly groundbreaking or shocking. As long as him and his lovekids are at peace which they are then he doesn't care. I actually believe him. He detatched himself years ago.
DH didn't say much at all.
We went home and MIL called me. Ignored several times and picked up just to calmly say we need a bit of time.
She asked to speak to her grandkids. I hesitated and all hell broke loose. Literally hell. DH took the phone and hung up. Shock only said about 20 words since around 2pm. Including just fucking drive.
The drama is embarrassing to be honest. Not my style at all. I've blocked her number. This is ridiculous TBH. There won't be any more updates from me for a while I'm defo not breathing any more life into this. Time for me and my family to heal. Cake

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RandomMess · 02/05/2016 20:44

Flowers all the best to you all Flowers

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RaeSkywalker · 02/05/2016 21:25

rock I wish you all the best. Hopefully you can have a calmer evening and start to re-group a bit Flowers

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