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Bearlyknitted · 26/04/2016 12:32

27 years. Justice at last.

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LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 26/04/2016 23:49

The full truth at last YNWAFlowers
I wonder if the Sun will have Hillsborough on the front page tomorrow? Probably not. I think this is the start of a further chapter, we should see some accountability for the families now. Especially Dunkenfield.

whitershadeofpale · 27/04/2016 00:02

Nope they've once again dismissed the chance to do the decent thing. #JFT96

The Times is also ignoring it (for some reason it won't allow me to upload a pic).

whitershadeofpale · 27/04/2016 00:04

Trying again.

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LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 27/04/2016 00:13

Sad Disgraceful whiter

Kummerspeck · 27/04/2016 00:14

If what I read earlier is correct the only two papers without this story on the front page tomorrow are The Sun and The Times; Murdoch still allows the same contempt for the people of Liverpool as before

Today this is the truth, let us hope justice and, maybe even a touch of retribution, will follow soon.
YNWA Flowers JFT96

MissTurnstiles · 27/04/2016 00:20

This is the front page of tomorrow's Times.

Unbelievable.

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MissTurnstiles · 27/04/2016 00:23

Page bloody 10.

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lemonpoppyseed · 27/04/2016 00:52

I can't believe what I've read today. The Guardian piece had me sobbing. Kudos to those who kept fighting for justice for all this time.

kipperydippery · 27/04/2016 01:00

Unbelievable!!! Words fail me. I'm from the NW & used to live in Liverpool. A snippet on page fucking 10.

How about WE LIED on the front page.

I did a newspaper round for a few years (95 - 98) when based in Liverpool. I can confirm that more people than I would have liked got the Sunday Times, they weighed a ton! I cannot ever remember delivering a copy of the Sun in the 3 years I did it.

HelenaDove · 27/04/2016 01:10

Im now taking a guess that the Times sales figures might take a dip in Liverpool too.

sashh · 27/04/2016 06:50

For anyone who doesn't know the story can I recommend the docudrama 'Hillsborough', it's on youtube.

It treats the subject sensitively, no gore and no pictures of people being crushed. It will tell you all you need to know of what happened at the time and the first inquest.

I know there is someone on MN who knew the Hicks sisters and when I recommended this before was worried about how it portrayed them, sorry I can't remember her name, I know she hasn't watched it but it treats the Hicks family sensitively too.

If anyone has more time then the report from the committee is also online and attached to it are all the statements from everyone who is interviewed.

The ones that made me cry were the ones from people who lived near the ground. Fans who didn't know if the people they came with were dead or alive used telephones in people's houses (no mobiles of course then) but still offered to pay for the call.

And then the day after many of those people returned with bags of groceries as a thank you. That made me cry when I read it. How hard must it have been to go back the following day? Who would even think to go back to the house where you used a phone?

This is not justice, it is the first step towards justice. Everyone in Liverpool should be proud that this day has come, but also aware that some in power will try to make this the end.

RIP 96

Littlemisslovesspiders · 27/04/2016 06:55

From someone who was at Hillsborough on that dreadful day.

YNWA RIP96

VillageFete · 27/04/2016 07:10

Yesterday was a strange day. Bittersweet. It should never have taken so long Sad So thankful and also relieved at the verdict. Had it gone the other way I don't feel the people of Liverpool would have taken it lying down, and i'm so pleased that the families and friends of the victims, those who were there that day, and the rest of the City can now start to move forward, feeling as though some kind of justice has been done. It now lies in the hands of the CPS as to whether justice will really be done.

Wondering what Kelvin McKenzie has made of it all? I may have missed him having a shred of decency and offering some kind of public apology? And how I laughed at Mr Cameron's tweet! Given his thoughts on the campaigner's quest for justice back in 2011.

YNWA JFT96. As has been said before, they most certainly picked on the wrong City.

Tollygunge · 27/04/2016 07:17

Rest in peace all. Saddest story.

mathanxiety · 27/04/2016 07:19

I knew what the title meant. There are lots of Liverpool fans in Dublin and all over Ireland.

What hell was inflicted on South Yorkshire in the 80s under MT. The contempt of the Establishment for the people was criminal.

ElviraCondomine Tue 26-Apr-16 18:51:55
I will admit I cried a little bit at the news, just like I did when the Bloody Sunday enquiry report was published, vindicating the (unarmed, totally innocent) demonstrators killed in 1972.
I pray that Orgreave will be the next miscarriage of justice to be tackled. I wonder if the miners have asked Jimmy McGovern to write their story? He seems to be a common link!

YYY to THIS^^

Littlemisslovesspiders · 27/04/2016 07:25

So thankful and also relieved at the verdict.

This does about sums it up.

I still have images of what I witnessed and went through in my head as if it was yesterday.

I truly now hope that those responsible are held to proper account.

cleaty · 27/04/2016 08:15

I remember seeing the images on the front page of The Mirror. I didn't read the Mirror, I had bought it from the local shop for an elderly neighbour who I did some shopping for. I am still shocked that a large photo of people clearly dying, was printed like that. It was totally shocking.
The verdict is good, but it should have happened a long time ago.

Clayhead · 27/04/2016 08:37

The Times here doesn't look like that, it has Hillsborough on the front page!

Littlemisslovesspiders · 27/04/2016 08:43

The Times here doesn't look like that, it has Hillsborough on the front page!

Thankfully they did change it for the second edition to show Hillsborough.

The picture above is first edition.

nauticant · 27/04/2016 09:08

I expect The Times was just late receiving the news and included it as soon as they could. Yes, that'll be it.

Bearlyknitted · 27/04/2016 09:49

The Sun - I have no words.

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bottleofbeer · 27/04/2016 09:51

Fuck the sun! They're shitbags who haven't the balls to print it.

I'm sure the 96 wouldn't want any association with it today anyway x

Waltermittythesequel · 27/04/2016 09:51

I'm in a coffee shop re-reading accounts of the day, crying into my coffee.

One story that stuck was that of a constable who could feel a hand pulling at his leg and when the bodies cleared it had been a child.

I could never live with myself had I caused that. And to deny the families their justice for so long. It's unspeakable.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 27/04/2016 10:36

The BBC news website has excellent but heartbreaking coverage: those pen portraits of the victims have had me in tears.

But no one I know, who lived through the miners strike and the eighties ever believed the police lies. The police absolutely treated ordinary people like scum back then. I remember going on a student loan demo in London in about '86. The police forced us all in to a crush up against a concrete section of the embankment. It was absolutely terrifying. I remember some lads grabbing my outstretched hands and pulling me up over the wall and screaming at them to pull my friends out too. The police didn't give a shit.

Buddahbelly · 27/04/2016 10:57

My friend at school lost her dad that day, we were 9. I didn't really get it back then, I just remember everyone being sad and queuing for hours around anfield to lay flowers and my mum explaining why she was crying - she should have gone that day but gave her ticket up as nobody could watch me or my brother thankfully.

I don't really see much of her now, just on facebook and I cannot even imagine what her and those poor families have gone through, nearly 3 decades to find out the truth of what happened to their family members, it should never have taken so long and i really hope duckenfield is prosecuted.

Im not surprised about the sun not reporting it, wouldnt expect them to start admitting they were wrong now after 27 years.

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