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To 'confront' this man when he asked for the priority seat on the bus

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YoJesse · 02/04/2016 14:43

Me and Ds 3 were on a really packed bus, no seats left at all. I was standing and Ds was on one of the priority seats. The other 7 priority seats were taken up with what looked like young able bodied people and on Dad with a baby.

A man 50ish gets on, walks past all the other seats and says to me 'I'm disabled, can you move your son?' I got Ds up without questioning it but then I heard the Dad with the baby say to the man 'fucking hell, seriously mate?' This got me thinking that maybe it was a bit unfair so I tapped him on the shoulder and said 'as you can see I'm happy to give up the seat for you but as you can see there are lots of young, able looking people on the other priority seats, don't you think you should of asked them not my son?' He then goes off on one say ' I'm disabled, your son should be sitting in here in the first place etc' so I said that he is less able to stand on a moving bus than most other people so maybe he is entitled to the seat. The man got all sweaty and angry and I felt really uncomfortable so I got off.

Was I unreasonable to confront him?

OP posts:
Samcro · 05/04/2016 22:45

oh gosh and now a new one.

candykane25 · 05/04/2016 22:48

Actually it was acceptable undercrackers

It's always acceptable for a disabled person to ask for a priority seat.

Have you considered that he might have been visually impaired and spoke to the person he could address?

And it wasn't possible for him to question everyone? And he needed to sit down asap?

Have you put yourself in his shoes as a person with a disability?

There's lots of information on this thread to help you to do that.

candykane25 · 05/04/2016 22:51

It's ok sam I've reported it for breaking talk guidelines again.

UnderCrackers5 · 05/04/2016 22:54

politely disagreeing with you is not breaking talk guidelines.

There are other valid opinions out there, I am not, was not, never will be disrespectful

Samcro · 05/04/2016 22:54

i don't think mn hq really care, they can see that people are goading.

saying peace and love only seems to work one way.
people forget most of us are mums/dads too and are only protecting our very vulnerable kids.

candykane25 · 05/04/2016 22:58

undercrackers

You called the disabled man an idiot for requested a priority seat.

I don't find that respectful.

The points you are making have gone round the block already and were deleted.

I'm pretty sure the whole thread will go soon which is a shame for the effort some of us have put in to increase awareness where there is a lack of knowledge.

kali110 · 05/04/2016 22:59

sam well i as i have said in my message to mnhg i am
Horrified that the posts they choose to delete are from the disabled.
I never insulted anybody, simply said what it was like living my life everyday.
Atleast my fb group have seen the thread on here and how mn react to it= deleting the disabled people voice!
I have honestly had enough of mn.
Netmums may be very controlled, but atleast they do not allow people to joke about animal abuse, nor ignorant posts about disabilities.
For a site running a 'my child' campaign about invisible disabilities they are very offensive and i am sick of it.

UnderCrackers5 · 05/04/2016 23:02

he did not request, he demanded.
he picked on the weakest, then demanded.

That would be called bullying in any other context

EveryoneElsie · 05/04/2016 23:02

So now we have a situation where some users believe disabled people should have to show an ID card to all and sundry to prove they are disabled.

And that anyone can sit in the priority seats, even someone who would not usually be eligible for a seat at all.

No one has said should the driver warn people getting on its standing only?
Should those standing have to pay for a seat?

Why the hell has OP pitted parents with children against the disabled and elderly?

kali110 · 05/04/2016 23:04

undr so what should he have done? Would collapsing on the floor be good enough for you?
How dare he want a seat in the priority seat
Yet another ione

kali110 · 05/04/2016 23:06

everyone that clearly wouldn't be good enough as shown here!
If they showed their card it would still be' the big sexist man made me, the weak woman move' Grin

UnderCrackers5 · 05/04/2016 23:07

maybe priority seats don't work so well on a massively overcrowded bus ?

candykane25 · 05/04/2016 23:07

Hi again undercrackers. I think I, and several other posters said about 300 posts ago that confronting a disabled man is where any possible bullying might have occurred. Although bullying hasn't really come up.
As for the weakest. The child had his able bodied parent with him who proved she was not the weakest, by confronting the disabled man.

Perhaps, as is the point of the thread really, the most vulnerable person here was the disabled man?

Don't worry, I've learnt from experience you won't take this on board unfortunately. Never mind.

kali110 · 05/04/2016 23:09

The person who
Was bullied was the old disabled man who was ganged up on by two people who should have known better.

hownottofuckup · 05/04/2016 23:10

I don't think that's what under is saying tbf

hownottofuckup · 05/04/2016 23:12

Is 50's old?!

candykane25 · 05/04/2016 23:13

Undercrackers. If you have a disability and you are on a massively overcrowded bus, you still have a disability?
What are you suggesting as a solution?

kali110 · 05/04/2016 23:13

To some, but then i think mid 30's is old as that's what i am Grin

candykane25 · 05/04/2016 23:14

howto I very much hope 50 is not old ;)

hownottofuckup · 05/04/2016 23:15

Me too, but I'm sure I'm still terribly young! Wink

kali110 · 05/04/2016 23:21

Sorry to anyone if i offended them by that comment, wasn't meant too!
I think i'm old too!
I thought i was old when i turned 25 and couldn't remember my ageGrin

UnderCrackers5 · 05/04/2016 23:22

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

MulderitsmeX · 05/04/2016 23:28

Totally dumbfounded by some of the selfish views on here. The man did not need to ask politely - he was entitled to the seat! Yes it would have been nice to say please and thank you but he is not only entitled to the seat of he asks nicely enough.

I feel for some of the posters up thread, not knowing if you will receive a torrent of abuse just trying to go about their daily lives Flowers

In this situ I would simply have got child up and asked if anyone else could spare a seat for him

candykane25 · 05/04/2016 23:28

Oh dear.

kali110 · 05/04/2016 23:31

"Nampy pampy"
Yep this thread is just a wind up isn't it.

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