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AIBU...to not like DP's sister?

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Shopaholic84 · 23/03/2016 14:14

DP and I have been together almost 5 years, we live together and got engaged last year. Very happy. All good.

This weekend his parents and sister and her husband are coming to stay for the whole bank holiday weekend and I am dreading it, mainly because of his sister.

It's really hard for me to say why, as it isn't like she's outwardly nasty. However, she is just incredibly self absorbed, she literally makes no effort to enquire about ANYONE else or their life. Just sits there and waits to be asked about hers and then happily sits, talking about herself.

It became apparent very quickly when I first met her and the rest of his family that she is absolutely adored and fawned over 24/7. She is the centre of the family's universe and everyone else is expected to make her the centre of theirs too.

I have known this woman for 5 years and I can honestly say that in that time she has barely spoken to me. She knows absolutely nothing about me nor is she interested. Which is fine, I don't expect people to have an avid interest in me or my life, however, I'm also not particularly interested in her or her life but when we're left alone in a room together or see each other at a family gathering/meal etc, it would be a bit awkward if we didn't speak. So, I make conversation with her, chat about anything and everything really, but mostly I ask her Q's about her DD, or her job, how's the house renovating going etc etc. Just general, everyday polite chit chat. Because, you know, that's what most 'normal' human beings do don't they?!

It's really difficult to explain, but events have been cancelled before, events that are quite big and have taken months of planning, because she's 'tired' and doesn't want to attend. So instead of just going ahead without her, the whole thing gets cancelled. Because the world doesn't turn unless she's there, when in actual fact, she doesn't really add much at all, just sits there murmuring 'hmm' 'umm' at conversations, until it (inevitably) turns to focus on her and then you can't shut her up.

18 months ago, DP got a promotion at work and we had to move a couple of hours drive away. This has kinda made things worse between her and I as instead of just seeing her for a couple of hours, I have to see her for a whole weekend or more. I find it exhausting.

SIL has invited herself down to stay 8 times in the last 18 months. This will be the 9th time and I really am dreading it.

For a start the mess- honestly, every single room is strewn with clothes, hers, her husbands and DDs. Their DD is now 2 and very cute, but obviously with small children/ toddlers comes mess. The kitchen walls and floor are covered in food after every meal. There is dirty nappys left in the kitchen bin (vom) that we don't know about until they start smelling. Last time they came SIL let DD play with play dough.....all over a cream carpet. Go figure. SIL asks for multiple cups of tea/ waters/ juices all day and afterwards, the rooms are strewn with dirty cups, mugs and glasses.

I wouldn't mind about any of the above if it was a guest that was occasional, I. E a TRUE guest. I enjoy looking after guests, but really, after all this time she can't even stick a cup in the dishwasher after it's been used?! I'm not her maid, but that's exactly how I feel.

I get married in September, my MOH is yet to receive an RSVP to my hen. SIL has barely spoken to me about the wedding. She has always treated me with such disdain, like I'm not a permanent fixture. I could understand it if pre me, DP was a player and had a different girl every week, but he only had a few other girl friends before me and they only lasted a year or so. He certainly didn't live with or propose to any of them.

I have 2 brothers, I haven't always been fond of their girlfriends, however you'd never have known, as whether I liked them or not I was still polite and friendly and made conversation where I could.

I guess it's been 5 years and most of the time, especially since we've moved away, I don't really give her a second thought. DP talks about her and tells me what she's been up to etc a lot and I just make the right noises. It is easy for me to just forget about her. But on weeks like this, where I am due to be in her company for 3-4 days at a time, I just feel really resentful and exhausted at the prospect of having to 'entertain' her as a guest. Why should I make the effort to make her welcome in my home when she can barely bring herself to acknowledge me? Well, in fact that's all she does.

It's strange, because we're actually very similar people. There is only 2 years age difference between us, we're both sociable types with lots of friends (sorry that sounds bleurgh I know!) we like the same music, both like to have a drink and a laugh. Yet, she's just never been arsed about getting to know me, at first it made me feel like crap, now it just makes me feel angry and resentful that I have to be all sweetness and light to her.

So.....WIBU to feign an illness and hide in the bedroom all weekend to avoid her and having to listen to no doubt everyone sitting there discussing only her and what she's been doing and what she feels for hours on end?! (Mostly joking about the feigning illness part!)

Has anyone else got a SIL that makes no effort or practically blanks them for no apparent reason? If so, how do you deal with it?

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LionsLedge · 24/03/2016 12:30

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diddl · 24/03/2016 12:49

I don't see my sibling that often as we are in different countries.

We get on really well when we see each other, but I'n not blind to their faults.

Like saying we only have each other & we should make more effort, then not answering messages or returning phone callsHmm

Honestly, he needs his blinkers taking off & I wouldn't be marrying him until they were.

He doesn't ever have to have the same opinion of his sister as you, but his idolising of her, trying to please his family for no return & being grateful for any scrap of attention just isn't healthy!

And you're the one who'll bear the brunt-as you already are.

You shouldn't be made to feel unwelcome/uncomfortable in your own home!

yorkshapudding · 24/03/2016 13:09

I sympathise with your situation and I know how tricky it can be.

My SIL is a complete narcissist. She is PIL's "favourite" and has spent her entire life being over indulged, believing that she is a "princess" and that she can say and do whatever she pleases with no repercussions. Consequently, she needs constant attention, behaves like a spoilt brat and assumes that everyone will find it adorable. She is also very 'grabby' and financially irresponsible and expects her parents to pick up the pieces (with no thanks or acknowledgement of wrongdoing on her part) because of her deeply held belief that she is special and entitled to the best of everything without having to lift a finger to get it.

DH isn't blind to her faults and has told me on a few occasions that he has felt embarrassed by things she has said or done. But she's his sister so he loves her and wants to believe that she's a good person deep down. He has also spent his whole life listening to everyone around him singing SIL's praises and watching them ignore/make excuses for her bad behaviour. He is able to tolerate it and let it wash over him (I expect he had to learn to do so from a young age or life would have been miserable for him) whereas I want to throttle her and the rest of them for enabling her nonsense.

When we see SIL (which fortunately isn't that often) I am polite and make an effort for DH's sake but I don't fawn over her the way PIL's and other family members do. I don't pretend to find it hilarious when she says something offensive or deliberately unkind to someone, for example. SIL finds this a bit baffling as she's so used to the adoration. While I have no intention of creating a huge drama and making everyone uncomfortable by falling out with her, DH knows that I don't approve of the way she lives her life and that we will never be friends. He accepts this and doesn't expect anything more. I am careful not to slag his sister off to him but I am honest with him if I feel she's making unreasonable demands of us or something she has said/done has crossed a line.

Werksallhourz · 24/03/2016 13:22

I was in a similar situation with my SIL, op. The difference was that my DH knew what his DS was like, though his parents just played ostrich. I made an effort with her for a long time but, ten years on, both DH and I are now no contact with her.

The one thing that jumped out at me from your posts is that SIL and her family have come to visit eight times over 18 months. On average, that's a visit every nine weeks. If every one of these visits involves a substantial stay overnight say, more than two nights then I think that is quite excessive.

I would certainly struggle to host two adults and a toddler for more than two nights every nine weeks, particularly if neither of those adults were my or DH's parents because then you also need capacity, time and space for parental visits too if said parents live a fair distance away. If you then have parents visiting four times a year for a substantial stay, then you are looking at hosting guests nearly every four weeks.

While this might be manageable when you are still childless, I would suggest that such regular extended visits are too much when you have young children. Regular extended visits like this not only create work, but they also disrupt routines so everyday tasks start to pile up.

I would also question why your SIL and her family are inviting themselves to stay so often, particularly as there is no bond between your and SIL. It seems a little odd. If I were you, I am afraid I would be wondering whether there was some sort of benefit for them in it that I had overlooked. Do they contribute to food costs, for example?

Having gone through a similar scenario, I know that talking about SIL or IL issues with a DP or DH can be very tricky. In my experience, DP/DH's have to get to the point where they personally realise a situation is very wrong or disruptive -- and, emotionally, that can be a long way down the line when something finally happens that is so severe that it cannot be explained away or ignored. The "last straw" can often end up being a ten tonne weight, iyswim.

TeaOnEverest · 24/03/2016 13:29

I have a relative like this. She is spoken of in such glowing terms by her adoring family,it's a bit surprising when people eventually meet her,only to discover she is a dull, self absorbed woman, who has no friends left, because she expects everyone to run around her.

Don't you dare shut away your lovely dogs. My relative hates cats, and was very rude about mine. She expected me to remove them. I didn't. She doesn't call round so much any more Grin

diddl · 24/03/2016 13:37

It shouldn't matter if you don't get on.

As long as you can be civil for a couple of hours every once in a while.

Problem is, that he isn't OK with that & seems to think that blaming the Op is the way to go!

Fannycraddock79 · 24/03/2016 14:59

I think that this weekend you should pretend you can't see any of the mess. 12 cups on the top of the dishwasher? 4 cups in their bedroom you say? Just ignore ignore ignore until your dp starts to notice. The more you clear up (much as it might drive you mad) the less anyone else notices how much you're running around after them.

lem73 · 24/03/2016 17:26

I agree you must not pick up after them. No mugs? Oh dear you can always wash one for yourself. Or do what a family friend did because she was sick of always being the hostess - use paper plates and cups when family visit!
I agree with others that I don't know how you can continue with so many visits when you have children.

ElementaryMyDear · 24/03/2016 18:34

In your shoes I'd be tempted to put a bandage on my wrist this weekend and claim I was totally unable to do any housework or cooking of any description.

NantucketNightbird · 24/03/2016 18:43

Tabby I don't like sisters

NantucketNightbird · 24/03/2016 18:44

Tabby = yanbu Blush

SeaCabbage · 24/03/2016 18:52

Please come back on Monday OP to update us about the weekend!

I hope this thread has given you some strength to challenge.

Does your SIL ever ask your DP about himself?

Shopaholic84 · 24/03/2016 19:05

Oh god. I'm dreading it Sad I wish you could all be here with me!

To top it off, SIL started doing Juice Plus and Yonique last month (don't know how much success she's having yet but I'm
Sure we'll hear all about it Grin) so I have a feeling she may try and sign me up make me join the cult GrinGrin

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Shopaholic84 · 24/03/2016 19:06

Oh and no.

She never asks DP anything really. She'll join in the convo if someone else brings up his life, but never actively ask him herself! Hmm

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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/03/2016 19:10

I've been married twice. Once into a family I didn't get on with and once into a family I did. I would never again marry into a family I didn't get on with. Particularly a close one. Double particularly one in which I couldn't express my opinion about it.

You are setting yourself up for a lifetime of pain if you aren't honest with your DH. This really is a fundamental of marriage.

Soggybottomnighmareband · 24/03/2016 19:58

Mrs TP, makes a very good point, they sound like a close family, if you can't find a way to get on with her, you will always end up looking like the unreasonable one, as you have already found out.

oldlaundbooth · 24/03/2016 20:04

My SIL obviously thinks I am super dull and boring.

Maybe I am. But she has never taken the time to get to know me! Because I don't get shit faced and fall asleep with my head in the toilet I must be some sort of bore.

Also, what drives me mad too, is that she seems to think I didn't have a life before DH.

I have asked her questions, made conversation etc etc etc. It's so forced and blah, she obviously doesn't like me.

We are seeing her at weekend too and my plan is to just smile and be nice but no more forced convo's - I can't be arsed.

Shopaholic84 · 24/03/2016 20:26

Well I know that you DEFINITELY can't be my SIL old as she has never asked me ONE question Wink Grin

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TheScottishPlay · 24/03/2016 20:37

My SIL pretends to be asleep when I encounter her at PILs. I do find this offensive then remember she describes herself as 'a massive petrolhead' Smile.
I just switch off now when Pils feel the need to tell me every detail of her and her children's lives.
It helps that DH is well aware of her antics.

littleleftie · 24/03/2016 20:56

OP YANBU at all to have issues with SIL who sounds like a total PITA.

However, you are planning to marry this man and you don't appear to be able to have an honest conversation with him about your feelings. I don't think you should marry a man you cannot tell you don't want house guests so often or for so long, that you find SIL rude, that there is no way your dogs are being shut away, and that there will be times when you don't want to be around when SIL visits and he will have to cope alone.

Seriously, you seem to have a real communication problem.

magoria · 24/03/2016 21:26

You would be mad to marry into this family.

Your DP did not stop them bitching about your absence and actually made you feel bad enough to ensure you were there from then on to shut him up.

Marriage will not make this better.

To them you are nothing more than there to serve your betters and to let them treat your hard paid for house and belongings as a shit tip.

They don't have any respect or even common courtesy for you.

Can you imagine how this family would treat your DC if you have any?

I think he would choose them over you if push comes to shove. Find that out now before marriage rather than later.

TheScottishPlay · 24/03/2016 21:45

Believe me op it is painful to see other grandchildren favoured over your DC.
My pils don't even realise they do it anymore. DS is not there often.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/03/2016 21:56

I think he would choose them over you if push comes to shove. Find that out now before marriage rather than later. This in bucket-loads.

Shopaholic84 · 24/03/2016 22:44

Aren't most families cliquey though? My exes family were I know that for a start. He was an EA arsehole who literally made me a shell of my former self (current DP is NOTHING like him btw, just for the record- polar opposites thank god!) and neither his mum nor his sisters would have a bad word said against him. Not that I did, until one of them confronted me about breaking her poor DB's heart because I left him. He had spun them a load of crap.

I never really expected them to believe my side of things, simply because they were so cliquey and blinded.

I don't know, I'll see how the weekend goes. I'll try and drop a lot of hints and then have a discussion with him on Mon eve before he heads back for work Tues.

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Catvsworld · 24/03/2016 23:30

Lol are you sure that's not my sister in law

We just don't see mine now I don't like her and I don't want to spend anytime wither her that's it she's not my sister if oh wants to see her he can arrange a meet up without me