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AIBU...to not like DP's sister?

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Shopaholic84 · 23/03/2016 14:14

DP and I have been together almost 5 years, we live together and got engaged last year. Very happy. All good.

This weekend his parents and sister and her husband are coming to stay for the whole bank holiday weekend and I am dreading it, mainly because of his sister.

It's really hard for me to say why, as it isn't like she's outwardly nasty. However, she is just incredibly self absorbed, she literally makes no effort to enquire about ANYONE else or their life. Just sits there and waits to be asked about hers and then happily sits, talking about herself.

It became apparent very quickly when I first met her and the rest of his family that she is absolutely adored and fawned over 24/7. She is the centre of the family's universe and everyone else is expected to make her the centre of theirs too.

I have known this woman for 5 years and I can honestly say that in that time she has barely spoken to me. She knows absolutely nothing about me nor is she interested. Which is fine, I don't expect people to have an avid interest in me or my life, however, I'm also not particularly interested in her or her life but when we're left alone in a room together or see each other at a family gathering/meal etc, it would be a bit awkward if we didn't speak. So, I make conversation with her, chat about anything and everything really, but mostly I ask her Q's about her DD, or her job, how's the house renovating going etc etc. Just general, everyday polite chit chat. Because, you know, that's what most 'normal' human beings do don't they?!

It's really difficult to explain, but events have been cancelled before, events that are quite big and have taken months of planning, because she's 'tired' and doesn't want to attend. So instead of just going ahead without her, the whole thing gets cancelled. Because the world doesn't turn unless she's there, when in actual fact, she doesn't really add much at all, just sits there murmuring 'hmm' 'umm' at conversations, until it (inevitably) turns to focus on her and then you can't shut her up.

18 months ago, DP got a promotion at work and we had to move a couple of hours drive away. This has kinda made things worse between her and I as instead of just seeing her for a couple of hours, I have to see her for a whole weekend or more. I find it exhausting.

SIL has invited herself down to stay 8 times in the last 18 months. This will be the 9th time and I really am dreading it.

For a start the mess- honestly, every single room is strewn with clothes, hers, her husbands and DDs. Their DD is now 2 and very cute, but obviously with small children/ toddlers comes mess. The kitchen walls and floor are covered in food after every meal. There is dirty nappys left in the kitchen bin (vom) that we don't know about until they start smelling. Last time they came SIL let DD play with play dough.....all over a cream carpet. Go figure. SIL asks for multiple cups of tea/ waters/ juices all day and afterwards, the rooms are strewn with dirty cups, mugs and glasses.

I wouldn't mind about any of the above if it was a guest that was occasional, I. E a TRUE guest. I enjoy looking after guests, but really, after all this time she can't even stick a cup in the dishwasher after it's been used?! I'm not her maid, but that's exactly how I feel.

I get married in September, my MOH is yet to receive an RSVP to my hen. SIL has barely spoken to me about the wedding. She has always treated me with such disdain, like I'm not a permanent fixture. I could understand it if pre me, DP was a player and had a different girl every week, but he only had a few other girl friends before me and they only lasted a year or so. He certainly didn't live with or propose to any of them.

I have 2 brothers, I haven't always been fond of their girlfriends, however you'd never have known, as whether I liked them or not I was still polite and friendly and made conversation where I could.

I guess it's been 5 years and most of the time, especially since we've moved away, I don't really give her a second thought. DP talks about her and tells me what she's been up to etc a lot and I just make the right noises. It is easy for me to just forget about her. But on weeks like this, where I am due to be in her company for 3-4 days at a time, I just feel really resentful and exhausted at the prospect of having to 'entertain' her as a guest. Why should I make the effort to make her welcome in my home when she can barely bring herself to acknowledge me? Well, in fact that's all she does.

It's strange, because we're actually very similar people. There is only 2 years age difference between us, we're both sociable types with lots of friends (sorry that sounds bleurgh I know!) we like the same music, both like to have a drink and a laugh. Yet, she's just never been arsed about getting to know me, at first it made me feel like crap, now it just makes me feel angry and resentful that I have to be all sweetness and light to her.

So.....WIBU to feign an illness and hide in the bedroom all weekend to avoid her and having to listen to no doubt everyone sitting there discussing only her and what she's been doing and what she feels for hours on end?! (Mostly joking about the feigning illness part!)

Has anyone else got a SIL that makes no effort or practically blanks them for no apparent reason? If so, how do you deal with it?

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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 25/03/2016 22:31

You and DP need to talk / but I think you know that ... Chocolate

Shesinfashion · 25/03/2016 22:39

So DP backed down about the dogs and shut them away? Good start. You really should have talked to him before they arrived. Now they're staying even longer? You poor thing. I'd be raging.

WonderingAspie · 25/03/2016 22:42

Nip this staying longer talk in the bud now! Pull your spineless DH aside and tell him they aren't staying longer as you are already unhappy about them all being there for as long as they are.

I'd get the dogs back out. And tell them no, the dogs are not being kept to a small room all weekend in their own home so fuck off you ignorant bitch.

Wolpertinger · 25/03/2016 22:56

You need Words. Tonight. No extending stay, no dogs being out for hours on end and you would appreciate it if he and your family remembered you exist.

Wolpertinger · 25/03/2016 22:57

Ooops meant, he and his family remembered you exist. Especially as presumably you are doing the fucking catering?

Otherwise just move out for the duration.

perrita · 25/03/2016 23:09

Oh my gosh my SIL is EXACTLY like this. I've known her for 13 years, we started out friends before I met DH (met her and DH separately at college before realising they were related) but had a couple of big fallings out but things have been okay for the past few years after she split up with her arse of an ex. There's a lot of backstory but we're on okay terms now.

The point is, she is THE most self absorbed person I've ever met. I could spend a day with her but she wouldn't ask me one single thing about me, just talk about herself for all that time. For example, upon entering her house and saying hi how are you she would just reply with "fine" not "fine, you?" I think it is incredibly rude but she's the golden child in her family. Everything revolves around her, no plans can be made without consulting her first, etc. At least in this case though I know it's not just me she has a problem with, she's like it with everyone I've seen her converse with. Do you ever hear your SIL ask your DH questions, or their parents? Is it just you she's like this with or is it just her personality?

ouryve · 25/03/2016 23:25

It's late now, but if you're still awake, you need to have words before going to bed.

And to seriously think about how much you can trust your do, saying one thing then doing the opposite. Spineless git that he is.

giraffesCantReachTheirToes · 25/03/2016 23:38

jp and younique? bloody hell.

Has she tried to flog you it yet?

we need updates all weekend. hourly

the dogs need walked tomo - then you need a long shower from the mud

Nomorechickens · 25/03/2016 23:39

Sounds as if you are close to crunch time so what have you got to lose by speaking out? Do it really nicely, with a smile, try not to even feel angry or upset, just determined. Let the dogs out, if anyone says anything, say cheerfully that they are fine with kids but that uf SiL is worried, she can keep DD on her knee all weekend. If Dp locks the dogs away again, wait 5 minutes then let them out again, smiling sweetly. If SiL leaves a mess, look her in the eye and ask her nicely to tidy up or throw away specific items. Just keep asking. It will give you something to do other than seethe. Worry about the consequences later.

ohtheholidays · 25/03/2016 23:40

OP I think you've just started seeing his relationship with his family and with you clearly.

I'd honestly be worried about marrying into that family.I think sadly that even once your married she'd still come first and you'd still be treated like an after thought by your partner.

AyeAmarok · 25/03/2016 23:49

Inviting people to stay on YOUR home without even discussing it with you first is seriously rude.

The problem is your DP here, I'm afraid to say. Your SIL can only do things like this because he enables and encourages her.

Just say to him she makes you feel unwelcome in your own home and you're not having it. It's your home too!

giraffesCantReachTheirToes · 25/03/2016 23:50

If she says "Iwant the dogs away" you just say...ok will take them out. And of you go - OUT!

redshoeblueshoe · 26/03/2016 00:43

My XH was like this.

Remind me - what do you see in your DP ?

He is not on your side, his DSis will always come ahead of you.

Wine I think you might need this over the weekend Wine Wine Wine

tiredvommachine · 26/03/2016 02:51
Flowers
wallywobbles · 26/03/2016 03:59

Im wondering if you think if you are honest with your DP he might not love you any more.

I would start by saying to him do you know your DSis has never asked me a question? And let him see for himself. Start by pointing out a few things and sort of add I wonder why. Aim that he should come to some conclusions himself.

And keep letting the dogs out. Lots and lots of walks for you this weekend. 30 mins every 2 hours should be good.

AugustaFinkNottle · 26/03/2016 06:40

I hope you've pointed out to DH that he agreed the dogs weren't going to be shut away and that's how it's going to be? Maybe if SIL doesn't like it you could find her a B&B? Have you also asked whether he noticed how she blanked you?

Hissy · 26/03/2016 07:28

Sil ought to be up early with a toddler, so it may even be that she is on her own with toddler.

Get up and get the dogs out. When she whinges remind her that you have clearly stated that the dogs will not be cooped up and that you'll understand if the means she reconsiders her staying.

There will be no extension of the trip

You don't have to be nice to someone who treats you with contempt in your own home.

I'd not stay with anyone who allowed this. Your DP is not going to Change. Either you kick off and demand some respect, or you kick him out of your life.

Roussette · 26/03/2016 07:42

I would not allow anyone to ignore me in my own house. I would plonk myself down beside her and start talking about myself, just to annoy her!

Onsera3 · 26/03/2016 07:52

Out of interest- Is she the younger sister to your DH and they're the only two siblings?

I had an almost SIL like this once and this was the case. She was one of the reasons we broke up. Her brother was actually an arse so I should have broken up with him for other reasons. We lived together the three of us!

Funnily enough, I have maintained a friendship with her for many years! She is great as a friend, just would make a terrible SIL. Her role in family is spoilt baby.

Shopaholic84 · 26/03/2016 07:59

I went to bed early- DP didn't come til after I'd gone to sleep so must have been quite late.

I've just woken up and he's not in bed beside me. I can hear them all downstairs. I just can't face going down yet & im fucked off with DP because he's activity avoiding me. I can guess what happens next, I've just heard DP go into the kitchen- I think he's going to make everyone breakfast but I daresay I'll be bloody included as I'm not up Angry

We're visiting a national trust property today. I should imagine we'll have covered most of the NT 'hotspots' around here by the Monday at this rate, though the weather forecast hasn't changed so whether that'll actually happen I don't know!

Still a long weekend to go. The dogs are not being shut away again, I got them back out last night and they fell asleep at my feet. They were fine, grrr!

SIL didn't ask one thing about me. Sigh. In fact no one did, my DF has been ill recently and whilst in all honesty I don't want a fuss or to really go on about it, it's polite to ask after people no?

No mention of wedding yet either, again, I get sick of talking about it after a while but to not even ask how the plans are going = rude IMO.

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Bodear · 26/03/2016 08:08

Hi OP, sorry it's not going well. Who's doing most of the hosting and tidying up? Is dh2b doing the lions share? Could you say something like "oh sil, could you give me a hand emptying the dishwasher/ clearing away plates/ making dinner?" It would show that you expect guests to pitch in.
Also, well done re the dogs!

MakeItRain · 26/03/2016 08:11

This is a really difficult one. If you go off and do your own thing you will most likely be accused of being rude, whereas they are the ones excluding you.

You need to really get the message home to your dh that you have tried and tried over the years to be polite but that you are excluded. Ask him to watch his sister when you talk to her.

If you manage to get that message across you have a few options -

Get your dh on board and hugely cut down the visits.

If your dh won't do this then you need to arrange to be out/ away for most of the visit. (Have you got a friend who could call because she "needs" you for an "emergency" of some sort?)

Or 3, a big rethink about whether this relatonship is going to work for you in the long run.

Flowers It sounds really tough for you.

littleleftie · 26/03/2016 08:12

Honestly I would kill him.

He is now actively avoiding having a conversation with you - basically you don't count.

IsItMeOr · 26/03/2016 08:23

In an equal relationship, you get an equal say over who visits, when and for how long. As a matter of course, your DP should be discussing arrangements with you before committing you both to them.

You also get to decide what you will be doing, and it is respected. Otherwise he is expecting to control what you do, and that is not acceptable.

I would not marry your DP without addressing these two issues. While it may be possible for you to resolve this - if you actually talk about it - there is obviously the risk that DP will not be willing/able to treat you as an equal, with equal rights.

Better to find that out now than after you are married or have DC together.

Good luck OP.

Shopaholic84 · 26/03/2016 08:29

Bodear, in fairness it is DP that has done most of the running around etc thus far. I expect I will have to chip in soon but, at the moment I'm trying to leave it all to him for once.

I am fuming as I swear he's avoiding me and I swear that's because he knows I'm going to have a word. However, him actively avoiding me in front of his family, just reiterates to them that I'm not important.

I'm sorry as I know this is Mumsnet and don't get me wrong, I love children, but the ONLY topic of convo yesterday and last night and I swear this is the truth, was his niece. Literally none spoke of anything else. It is like that child is the holy grail, which I suspect it is as its SIL's!! If there's one thing I cannot stand it's baby bores, unable to talk about anything else. Every time niece utters a word or does anything they all ooo and ahhh and that sparks off another 10 minute convo about that particular thing Grin

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