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My dad and DH have fallen out - what do I do?

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WelcomeToMusicTown · 18/03/2016 10:18

I don't want to drip-feed so apologies if this is long. My dad and my DH have fallen out and I feel stuck in the middle and unsure what to do.

DH and I (both in our 30s) have a 2 month old baby. When my waters broke just before midnight I went to the hospital alone, taking a taxi (we're in London, about 15-20 mins from the hospital depending on traffic). I insisted DH stay home as he wasn't feeling well, I knew I'd most likely be sent straight home, and I wanted him to get as much sleep as possible before I really needed him during active labour. He had his phone ringer on so had he needed to join me at the hospital he could have. In hindsight he feels that he should have insisted he come with me but I've always been very independent - in over 7 years together I've never asked or expected him to meet me at bus stops, walk me home etc - so in his tired and ill state he just accepted my insistence. As it happened I was indeed sent home and he went back with me in the morning when labour had progressed. I didn't think any more of it except feeling probably quite proud of myself for doing that first trip alone when I was heavily pregnant and a little in shock. Again in hindsight, that was probably quite naive of me but it didn't cross my mind to do it any differently.

My dad visited us a couple of weeks back and took DH aside to have a word. I had no idea what it was about as he'd said nothing to me, but it turned out he wanted to tell DH how upset he - and the rest of the family - was that he'd let me go to hospital alone in a vulnerable state. Their stories differ at this point. Dad says that he voiced his concerns but DH wouldn't listen so he lost his temper. DH says that my dad told him he's a bad father, that the whole family thinks so and that they've all - including me?! - been worrying about the hospital incident for weeks. In actual fact my mum says she was concerned (and of course I understand why) but she and my dad's partner made him promise not to bring it up and cause a scene - but he ignored that and did it anyway.

DH says my dad then grabbed him and raised his fist as if to hit him. DH at this point was freaked out by his aggression so pulled away from him and left our flat. All I know is I heard DH tell my dad to fuck off, then saw my dad, who was shaking with anger, chasing after him shouting that he was a fucking coward and to grow some balls. DH refused to come home until my dad had left.

I and my mum tend to believe DH's version as my dad has a history of being very short tempered and occasionally violent - DH literally wouldn't even raise his voice to someone and is the least aggressive person I know. My mum agrees that DH is probably telling the truth - she and my dad divorced partly because my dad was so volatile. He has in the past been held in a police cell after attacking his girlfriend (he claims not to remember) and has threatened suicide and self harm in the presence of, or in order to manipulate, me and my sisters.

To give a final bit of context: DH was already very stressed when my dad visited as my dad is very money and career focused and has on several occasions taken DH aside to ‘talk’ to him about his attitude to these things. DH isn't career-minded and I'm the main breadwinner in our relationship. He's also currently unemployed after being let go at new year and looking for a new job which has been making things hard work on top of having a new baby so he was already very depressed and down on himself and expecting a lecture from my dad made him feel worse. DH has made huge efforts to build a relationship with my dad but has been increasingly frustrated that dad only ever talks about money and doesn't seem interested in him as a person. Equally my dad is clearly frustrated that his daughter isn't being looked after in the traditional alpha male sense and while his approach is often wrong he clearly is just looking out for me.

However, after this fight my DH wants nothing more to do with my dad. He's scared of him, thinks he's frankly psychotic and isn't showing any signs of forgiving him for what he sees as an emotional and physical attack in his own home. My dad has tried to offer an olive branch via WhatsApp but DH won't accept his apology or even speak to him. This was really the last straw.

Now I'm in the situation of my dad wanting to still be part of my - and my baby's - life but logistically this now being difficult (he lives a couple of hours away) and also, to be completely honest, I feel resentful that he went ahead and caused this situation despite my mum and his current partner both begging him not to say anything. He's sending me very nice messages and claiming that he doesn't want to jeopardise my relationship with DH but that's all very well in hindsight - as usual he had to say his piece and to hell with the consequences. He's had a problem with my DH for a while so this was a long time coming but I'm angry that it had to be now when we're already going through a lot. I'm questioning whether I really want this man in my life but knowing how volatile and depressive he is I would, at the end of the day, feel bad for cutting him out. It's also not in my nature to do so.

I do wonder if I and my mum/sisters have been enabling this behaviour for too long. My mum agrees in one breath but in the other is saying he's still my dad and is checking to make sure I'm still sending him pictures of my baby so he doesn't miss out.

I just don't know how to navigate this situation. I'd like DH to at least listen to dad's apology but can also see why he no longer wants anything to do with him. To be honest I'm sure that in time he may come round to at least tolerating my dad's presence. But how can I continue a normal relationship with my dad, and make him part of my baby's life, with such a big elephant in the room? I'm still sending baby pictures to him and replying to his messages but I'm struggling to muster any enthusiasm for staying in contact. Even the mention or thought of my dad makes me feel very down.

Who here is being unreasonable? Am I? Is my DH for not wanting any more to do with him? Or is my dad?

OP posts:
Lovemylittlebears · 20/03/2016 09:29

Sorry forgot to sign off with a x

DSClarke · 20/03/2016 10:07

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

DSClarke · 20/03/2016 10:09

Sorry, I posted on the wrong thread! I've reported. It may make sens to anyone who listens to the Archers....

JolseBaby · 20/03/2016 11:47

Hardly 'armchair warrior', more an expression of an opinion. If that's your writing style then more power to your elbow. I don't like it because I don't understand why certain adults feel that they have to send every communication with an 'x', as it seems rather juvenile to me. However I'm just one person on an internet forum, so in the grand scheme of things what I think isn't really that important, is it?

NameChange30 · 20/03/2016 11:49

Jolse
"I am quite frankly astonished that someone can post some really nasty comments about the OP's DH, but appear to think that putting a kiss at the end of their post makes it all sound nice and supportive."
Yy! Grin

Make that two people on the Internet
xxxx

JolseBaby · 20/03/2016 11:59

AnotherEmma. Good for you if it makes you feel better. Not entirely sure how it's helping the OP though, which was the point of my post.

JolseBaby · 20/03/2016 11:59

Anyhoo, OP I sincerely hope you get things sorted.

NameChange30 · 20/03/2016 12:00

Jolse I was agreeing with you!

NameChange30 · 20/03/2016 12:00
JolseBaby · 20/03/2016 12:02
Blush

Am an idiot.

Soz hun xxxx

NameChange30 · 20/03/2016 12:05

No worries hunny Grin xxx

Goingtobeawesome · 20/03/2016 12:07

kawliga - are you feeling quite okay? [Hmm

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 20/03/2016 12:16

I never knew that so many village idiots could amass in one place.

Her DH was puking, if he stepped a foot in the hospital and puked, they wouldnt let him back again after he'd recovered.

For a website that encourages victims of domestic violence to leave, there is an awful of excuses made for a abusive man. Or is it because it was against another so it dont matter?

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 20/03/2016 12:16

*man

JolseBaby · 20/03/2016 12:22

For a website that encourages victims of domestic violence to leave, there is an awful of excuses made for a abusive man. Or is it because it was against another so it dont matter?

This.

Tabsicle · 20/03/2016 14:32

I'm imagining the AIBU from the other mothers on the maternity ward if the OP's DH had gone in.

"AIBU to not want some strange bloke puking his guts up and then staggering back into the ward where my newborn is sleeping?"

NeedsAsockamnesty · 20/03/2016 15:19

Do you think that the reason why it's now fairly usual to have fathers in the delivery room is because of

A. Fathers rights

Or

B. Because many women find it helpful and supportive during labour and delivery.

BoneyBackJefferson · 20/03/2016 15:24

Such a lot of vitriol against a man that has been abuse by his FiL.

Blu · 20/03/2016 15:44

The OP went to a hospital in a taxi and not really experiencing contractions. Anyone would think she was hitching to Homs while suffering appendicitis.

Lol at the depth of some double standards: a man who is temporarily out of work, being a great Dad, and I don't know where the OP lives but lots of families in London don't have cars as there is nowhere to park , especially at hospitals, so not driving is irrelevant.

In the end stages of pregnancy I would have banished a DP with a sick bug to somewhere else, to avoid catching it, not had him drive to hospital or drive, FFS!

Gobbolino6 · 20/03/2016 15:54

I think your dad is at fault and I'd be distancing myself for a while.

I don't think your DH sounds very reliable, but I don't know the full story and if you're happy, fine.

WeDoNotSow · 20/03/2016 18:37

I'd be fucking furious tabsicle anyone would, if they were in labour and a puking man came on the ward!
That's why they have signs all over hospitals, if you have sickness/diarrhoea you need to go home
They don't even want you in a&e let alone near all the tiny newborn babies!!
Some people are just being ridiculous and want to put the boot in without even really paying attention to the facts and what they're actually saying I think

kawliga · 20/03/2016 18:51

but I should add he doesn't drive

Of course he doesn't drive. We got the measure of him.

I wouldn't go NC with a father who you have said loves you and supports you practically and emotionally. You might need some actual support one day.

NameChange30 · 20/03/2016 18:57

What utter bollocks. Some people really can't read, can they?!

JolseBaby · 20/03/2016 19:08

Kawliga - you did catch the part of them living in London, didn't you? I know many, many people who live in London who don't drive simply because there is no need to. Parking costs are astronomical and traffic is a nightmare. Most of them use the tube, buses and walk. But presumably OP's husband is still a wanker for not having a driving licence and a car? Hmm

JolseBaby · 20/03/2016 19:09

Emotional and practical 'support' is not 'support' when it comes from a violent and abusive man - it's a form of control.