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I think we're due a name change. Just looked at Relationships and 3 out of the 4 top threads are by men.

I fear HQ have some sort of plan for the creepy wee brackets. They may be forced to work rather than just illustrate stage instructions. Like the less fortunate [ ] uncreepy brackets. work hardest of all, of course, providing links.

Thomas I just read the disrespect nobody ad thread. First of all, kudos to you for fighting so valiantly over there, OMG. It's actually quite depressing. I've experienced these threads on MN before, especially the statistics wars and the made up facts. There was one where posters were saying that everybody suffers equally from domestic violence.

But on the bright side (just to confuse Maryz) I learned a lot from the men on there, mainly this: Whilst society may be sexist towards women in certain situations, regarding the law and institutions, Men experience sexism much, much more.

I work in a male-dominated profession (male dominated at the higher levels, female dominated at entry level) so I am grateful to have it revealed to me that Men Experience Sexism Much, Much More. I find that a comforting thought. I'm also grateful to learn that women choose their lower-status jobs. That's ok then.

Don't want to derail the thread though. This is a thread to say we need more men on here.

Nope, still none the wiser!

Yes kawliga, we sure had our "floors" well and truly pointed out on that thread.

Moonlight, creepy wee brackets are creepy because ScottishMummy said so.

we sure had our "floors" well and truly pointed out on that thread

I enjoyed the pictures of posie's floors...but seriously, that was an epic battle. I will remember that thread next time this issue comes up. The funny thing is, when a poster comes on to say what about the menz they always think they're the first person EVER to say that on mn.

@Stratter5

Why are creepy wee brackets making messages invalid? :(

I have bolded because this is an extremely important question

Thanks for asking - we are on the case here btw.

I must say I've never met with harassment on a certain aviation forum. They are a good bunch in general. I think being female, (when they realise I am) only makes them kinder and more patient with me.

It's the males who don't know what they're talking about that get shouted down first.

The dynamic is different on every site.

Here's the dynamic on mumsnet

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2572967-to-thibk-theres-a-lot-of-mansplaining-going-on-at-the-moment?trending=1

That thread was

The number of men who came on to kindly explain to us why mansplaining doesn't exist, and why were sadly wrong about everything

Jeanne posted many links to research on that thread, including this www.alternet.org/gender/7-studies-prove-mansplaining-exists

Some posters (not me, I'm too lazy!) do a lot of hard work bringing research on these threads and the domestic violence threads, which I think is really important. Social problems cannot be understood just by relying on your own experience and that of your friends. They are called social problems because they are endemic and widespread. Saying 'Oh, I know a woman who does that too' is not evidence that problems do not disproportionately affect women.

Also trying to minimize the problem by saying what about kidsplaining, teensplaining, neighboursplaining, dogsplaining, and all the splainings does not mean that this is not a real problem with real effects on the status of women.

Yes Kawliga, I think that Jeanne does great work across Mumsnet. We're lucky to have her.

Some other posters, not so much.

Yes Kawliga, I think that Jeanne does great work across Mumsnet. We're lucky to have her.

Yes, especially because these threads go round and round in endless cycles often trotting out the same ignorant rubbish, so whoever tries to set the record straight has to be prepared to do it over and over again!

Long ago before the internet it was worse - very difficult to show social trends. In 1909 Maud Pember Reeves had to go round London, knocking on doors of poor people for years (helped by her friends) to put together a study that would PROVE that poverty was a real problem. Because otherwise nobody would believe her. They'd be like 'I know someone who lives in London and she's not poor' Or they just believed poor people were simply lazy and feckless.

That was posted on the deleted thread wasn't it?

Not really sure. There were some odd posts on it.

UnderTheGreenwood - thanks, I should have realised it was an SM thing!