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[mithy]

I think we're due a name change. Just looked at Relationships and 3 out of the 4 top threads are by men.

That has been asked for many times hasn't it Bell?

You can get tae fook belleende

Bell, it would have tumbleweed on it within a week.

Oh - were you being serious? Thought you were someone else....!

In all honestly I'd be all for a trans section, but no TA I've ever met would want that. They'd want the main sections renamed in gender neutral terms

But let's not make this another trans thread PLEASE

You mean you're invisible Belleende?

Maybe it's you VoyageofDad? Maybe women at baby groups don't like you for some reason? I must admit you're not coming across very well on this thread (imo anyway).

you lot can see through me

< facepalm >

Trans-parent....

So I started a thread about men hogging the site, and look what happened.

A man arrived to tell us where we're going wrong.

Couldn't make it up mithy

The dads who come on here to mansplain things to us don't worry me too much. I think they enjoy the attention. Oh, how brave of them to dive into mumsnet and sort all the women out. Frankly, the women who pipe up to say 'What about the menz!' on every topic are the ones who make me feel really sad.

So, if a woman suffering from domestic abuse comes on here for help and advice and all she gets is 'men suffer from this too!' I think that's quite tragic really. Never mind all the (7) dads hanging about trying to posture for supremacy because they have a penis - it would be nice to have a space where women have each others' back.

On domestic violence threads inevitably someone pops on to say 'what about that woman who killed her husband, women are evil too!'. It's ok for us to discuss things that affect women disproportionately without listening to anecdotes about how it happens to men too.

I guess some people feel that if women are having a discussion and nobody has mentioned men, something is very wrong, they feel like somebody at least has to mention the men or it's not a valid discussion.

I wonder if the same happens when men are talking together at work or at the pub. Does someone always pipe up 'what about the womenz!'?

Did you see this news today

"Almost two-thirds of women in the UK have had unwanted sexual attention in public places, a survey by YouGov has suggested. Out of 889 women asked, 64% said they had experienced some form of sexual harassment, with 35% saying they had suffered "unwanted sexual touching". The survey was commissioned by the End Violence Against Women Coalition"

So many things wrong with that. First of all, what about the men? They suffer unwanted sexual attention too. Second, why does this coalition want to end violence against women? What about violence against men? And dogs? And cats? And, like, trees? Surely it should be called the End Violence Against Living Creatures Coalition? Or just the End Violence Coalition, so that everything is included? That would be true equality.

I'm very confused. Hopefully a man will be along soon to clarify.

kawliga did you see the 'disrespect nobody ad' thread in Feminism? Plenty of mansplaining there!

My dog suffers from unwanted attention.

He's tiny. Everywhere we go little old ladies try to pay him and cuddle him. :(

I really, really really love this thread.

Although I am terribly distraught at not being able to use < creepy wee brackets >

I can't work out who's serious and who's being ironic < cries >

Ha, it's very confusing. Hang in there, brave woman, a man will be along soon to mansplain everything for you in simple words so that it's all clear.

< toddles off to look at the disrespect nobody ad thread >

But mansplaining involves a man telling a woman something at length when she already knows all about it. (And you probably won't have appreciated this, but it normally involves an element of condescension, sometimes called patronising, where we treat you as if you are of a lesser status - I'm happy to go into more detail if you are finding any of this hard to understand).

So, In this instance, you have acknowledged that a fellow poster is confused so I would take that to mean she is struggling to understand so if a man is kind enough to explain it that is genuinely useful and not mansplaining.

Naturally, I could try to dig out some articles on mansplaining or come up with some examples to help you get a better understanding of this interesting concept.

With pictures?

Thank you, DadDadDad, I understand it much better now.

Queue up ladies, bring all your questions, a man has arrived!

Why are the "< >" creepy though?

Our first question!

In the subject called Mathematics (often shortened to Maths), < and > are what are known as inequality symbols used to show less than or greater than. For example, you might know that 2 is less than 3, and you could express this by writing 2 < 3. I am sure you can see straightaway why that is creepy - after all, it's obvious to me, so it shouldn't take too long for you to get it if you try thinking really hard! I'm so happy I could help you.

Why are creepy wee brackets making messages invalid? :(

I have bolded because this is an extremely important question

I used the creepy brackets, like, 2 days ago.

What's changed? < narrows eyes >