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[mithy]

I think we're due a name change. Just looked at Relationships and 3 out of the 4 top threads are by men.

Rik Mayall, much missed.

I think, VOD, that the issue here is that men already have plenty of "Man Zones" whilst women have few "Women Zones"

it may not be a reflection of equality but most baby and toddler groups have a higher percentage of women simply because there is a higher percentage of women who work PT or SAH.
I have never been to a toddler group with my LO and been told to begger off cause it's women only. I've never been made to feel an outsider etc.
If you have, i'd say thats a reflection on that group, not on groups in general.

Women talking women's issues on Mumsnet has a negative impact on women's inequality. Riiiiight.

Can anybody hear me?

I went to toddler groups and Tumble Tots etc for years after DC1 was born in 1999. There were loads of Dads and Grandads there and nobody batted an eyelid. Everyone was nice, the children played and the parents chatted every week.

Has something changed?

3 out of the top 4 threads were started by men eh? Why not tell us how many threads it was in the top 5? Or the top 10? Let me guess, thread number 4 was a man started thread, and number 5 was a woman started thread, but you said 3 out of 4 because it supports what you want to say better.

Go look at the first 100 for more accurate statistics and report back here.

I can't decide whether I like ducks or chickens the most. Shame I can't have either as pets.

Sorry. My first post was testing after repeatedly getting a "Message is invalid" refusal.

get chickens Tiggy

Chickens are awesome, especially a male one.
It's one cock you don't mind waking up too.... (Sorry, awful joke)

Apparently if you use the little brackets it does that TD

I would say ducks are more interesting than chickens. They can fly and swim.

You do sound a bit patronising VOD-why would anyone's head explode?

Men not picking up the weight in childcare has a negative impact on women as a social group.

Yes, it does.
So surely they need to address this?

If you conflait parent groups with women's safe zones, which you very much seem to, then theres not much space for men there.

I don't. You're the only one who's mentioned parents groups. Everyone else is talking about mumsnet.
That's mumsnet - as in, ONE website in the whole of the Internet, which welcomes dads and which even has its own dedicated area SPECIFICALLY FOR dads.

But that's not enough? Why isn't that enough for you?

So where do they go with their dc ? MacDonalds ?

Well, only if they're lazy and/or feckless.
The options aren't Baby Groups OR Macdonalds.
Plenty of women don't go to baby groups for whatever reason - they think of other nice things to do that their child might enjoy. This isn't a dad-specific problem you know.

What pisses me off is this idea that women need to solve everything, and that if you don't want to go to baby groups then you will be forced to sit in fast food restaurants and it's all the women's fault for not welcoming you with open arms and making everything about you and your issues.

It's just so so arrogant.

Oh, in case you start on it AGAIN - no one here except you is talking about baby groups anyway - we're just talking about one website on the whole internet. HTH.

I did use little brackets. I've brought shame on my family.

And their eggs are nicer. (Ducks that is. Not little brackets. They seldom lay eggs.)

I don't think the name would put off any half sensible person.

The little pointy brackets they were.

And we have a vibrant Dads section on here for the hyper-sensitive man.

So are the creepy wee brackets not allowed any more?

Seems not Sparkling

The little arrow head ones that we used to use for stage directions.

Like sleeping Vs.

Wonder why?

There's a thread in Site Stuff about Message Invalid. I will ask.

Too many headtilts

Well im sorry to correct you about my own experiences, and that of friends, but respectfully you are wrong.

How so?

You've had negative experience with groups, i assume?
I have nothing but positive ones. In the many groups we went to in my home town and the few we now go to in our new town. all have been welcoming and positive with no sense of,
a flavour of the type of unpleasant response SAHDs get when they turn up at women's toddler groups.

It's my thread < preens >

S'ok if you space it!

< You can use them but with spaces > Misses point of thread

I didn't go to baby groups. Too tedious.

< oh yes so you can >

I don't like that.

Actually I am neither a mother or a father, I am a trans-parent. Can I have my own thread topic please