To wonder if scots will be voting to stay in the EU?

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Because if they do and the rest of the U.K. vote leave, it will trigger another independent Scotland referendum

Just curious.

Ooh Paul. You so hard

I asked a serious question as to how the border would work if one side had strictly controlled immigration and the other did not. Are you suggesting a wall and customs posts?

I actually think this is quite an important question. Hypothetical Scottish stuff aside, it will have a massive impact on the relationship between Ireland and NI if there is a Brexit.

Like during the IndyRef lots of important questions are not really being answered.

Borders?
UK citizens resident in EU?
EU citizens resident in Britain?
Farming?

All anyone seems to care about is immigration, and the general debate seems to be dumbed down to this level.

Some of them are my neighbours Paul so I am saying nothing!

Some of them are my neighbours Paul so I am saying nothing!

Terrifying!

It's flippant but true. They are not ogres just passionate towards their end, we all have to live alongside one another so I keep my views behind closed doors. Although I always answer a direct question.

We had a door knock from the SNP and he took my dismissal straight off. Didn't even try to persuade me. I bet he's been sacked now.

All anyone seems to care about is immigration, and the general debate seems to be dumbed down to this level.

You are correct of course itsall. I tried to keep the exchange with couch to a single issue, in the hope of getting a straight answer. But there are many other questions, like yours.

Unfortunately it seems that a large number of people are considering their vote on 'gut' feelings, rather than exploring what an exit would mean in practice. At the moment there is little coverage of these issues - perhaps because no-one actually has the answers?

When I was in Ireland recently I found it was difficult to see where the border actually was. I didn't realise we had crossed over until I saw advertisements priced in Euros. That works because we are both in the EU. I don't see how that could continue after Brexit.

Unfortunately it seems that a large number of people are considering their vote on 'gut' feelings, rather than exploring what an exit would mean in practice. At the moment there is little coverage of these issues - perhaps because no-one actually has the answers?

I'm suspect a lot of the answers are unanswerable, or dependent on politicians "promises". It's really irresponsible, not to have the answers. Was shocked to hear on the news that the pound has dropped 20% against the dollar - this whole process is going tom bad for the economy, no matter the outcome and meanwhile Europe is laughing at us

I think sadly though, most people will vote the way the DM tells them to

I think few people vote the way a newspaper tells them. For example Murdoch just sees which way his readership is going already. That's why he was prevaricating over Scottish referendum.

It could be argued that the BBC seem pro EU does that counterbalance newspapers? I don't know.

If the pound has dropped 20% against the dollar, isn't that fantastic news for our export industry?

Unfortunately it seems that a large number of people are considering their vote on 'gut' feelings, rather than exploring what an exit would mean in practice. At the moment there is little coverage of these issues - perhaps because no-one actually has the answers?

No-one has the answers as to what it would be like if we remained in the EU either. All kinds of things could happen.

We have had special agreements with Ireland for a long time which probably would continue except we'd need some border controls otherwise the 1m new immigrants to Germany could fly to Ireland under free movement and easily get across the border I suppose.

I very much doubt we will leave thankfully but we shall see.

If we leave we are likely to stay in the European Economic Area - a free trade area without customs duties for sale of goods and services which countries like Iceland and Norway are also in with all 28 EU states already. The EEA agreement as far as I remember requires countries to comply with a lot of EU law.

If we chose instead to charge duties on imported goods from the rest of the EU and they did likewise that would be another area where British citizens would fare worse, amongst many.

If we leave we are likely to stay in the European Economic Area

I don't think so. The EEA required free movement between member countries (one of?) the reason the Outers want out.

No-one has the answers as to what it would be like if we remained in the EU either. All kinds of things could happen.
Yes. The same applies either way.

There's been a common travel area between the UK and RoI since about 1952, so I don't see why a Brexit would make a jot of difference to the border there. Yes, there were security checkpoints at the border but that was because people liked to blow things up, not because there was rampant cross-border people trafficking.

We have had special agreements with Ireland for a long time which probably would continue except we'd need some border controls otherwise the 1m new immigrants to Germany could fly to Ireland under free movement and easily get across the border I suppose.

Exactly. The OP is about Scotland, but the same problems would occur with Ireland. How could the NI/EI and Scotland/England borders be sealed to stop immigrants just walking across the fields?

Punny the situation with immigration now is entirely different to the Troubles.

I suspect there would need to be some border control - is the EU not pissed off with Greece for letting immigrants across their (sea) border (not quite sure what the Greeks are meant to do? Shoot them?) But in general I think a lot of EU borders (with outside the EU) are now being "hardened"?

Ireland isn't a signatory to the Schengen agreement, so there are controls between the RoI border and other EU contries, not much different from UK Border controls. The RoI hasn't joing Schengen pretty much to maintain the CTA between the UK and RoI.

The Leave campaign are talking about imposing very much stricter border controls for a UK outside the EU. It's one of their main reasons for leaving. If that was done (I have my doubts about how practical it would be) then the situation either side of the border would be very different. I doubt that the Irish government would want to implement the same restrictions just to please the UK.

There are import duties into the EU, so prices for imports from other nations could fall if we dropped these.
Do people know that the common agricultural policy, which makes up 40% of EU spending means our food is 17% more expensive than it should be. If you currently spend £100 a week on food, Leave could make you £900 a year better off.

I don't think the boarder between Northern Ireland and Eire is a problem. The Irish Sea does a good job of stopping unwanted people getting into the rUk. Northern Ireland is very poor so would not be attractive to economic migrants.

If Scotland become independent and stayed in the eu, rUK left then there might be problems.

It is insulting the scots intelligence to think they are obsessed with independence. Some scots want out of the EU, some scots want to stay in the EU. I imagine that many scots have the same hopes and fears as the
English. Maybe Scots will vote to leave.

If Scotland become independent and stayed in the eu, rUK left then there might be problems.

There is no way this can happen.

That would mean that Scotland would need to become independent and somehow wangle staying in the EU prior to the UK (or whatever it was then called) voting to leave.