To wonder if scots will be voting to stay in the EU?

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Because if they do and the rest of the U.K. vote leave, it will trigger another independent Scotland referendum

Just curious.

We are not one homogenous blob of 'Scots' you know.
SNP MSPs and MPs are strongly 'In' but remember they are not allowed to go against party lines whatever their personal opinions are, many but not all Labour, Green and Lib Dem MSPs are also strong 'In' but iirc they are being allowed a free vote. So it will be a mixed result, perhaps not based along party lines (apart from SNP) same as everywhere else in the UK.

There are some idiots who will try tactical voting but thankfully not a great number.

Tactical voting? I don't think there are many seeking independence who also wish Scotland to be outwith the EU - though I may be wrong.

I think the "tactical voting" would come in to play if Independence supporters who also wanted to to stay in EU voted leave, in the hope.of triggering a referendum.

I really hope no one is actually stupid enough to do this...

I want Scotland to remain part of the UK but for the UK to leave the EU. I know voting to leave the EU potentially puts another neverendum back on the table, but I'm still voting to leave.

It's all very interesting!

why are people still being huffy and snarky and telling people to leave, if it was a No vote?

i will vote to stay in EU

Can't speak for everyone in Scotland, but I voted no in the Scottish referendum and I'll be voting to leave the EU. I quite enjoyed the indyref though, it got loads of people talking politics, so I won't mind too much if we do it all again. I still think whatever happens Scotland will stay in the UK.

The main argument I saw for leaving the UK in the independence referendum was that they wanted to be entirely self-governing, not ruled by a government hundreds of miles away, didn't want people not living in Scotland to be able to make laws concerning them etc.

So, I can't understand why my 'Yes' voting family and friends would then vote to stay in the EU. Isn't it just the same being "ruled" by Westminster as it is by Brussels?

Sorry, but I am lost - surely to provoke another indyref Scots would need to vote 'stay' while the rest of the U.K. Voted 'leave'?

My understanding of the having to rejoin the EU thing was the same as the pound thing - the yes campaigners were suggesting things wouldn't change that much whereas the no campaigners were saying they would.

Some Scots might hope that the UK overall votes to leave thus triggering another indyref.

I'll be voting to stay in, and I hope that's what the whole UK vote is, although I'm not feeling very optimistic. I don't really want another independence referendum. I did vote Yes, but I'm not 100% sure if I would in another referendum, and I don't want to go over it all again!

There are some idiots who will try tactical voting but thankfully not a great number.

I'm curious as to how tactical voting in a 2-horse race works ?

I'm going to be voting to stay in, if that triggers another indyref that would be brilliant (although not primarily my reason for voting that way), if not (i.e. whole UK stays in EU) then that would be great too.

I was thinking this too. I have many pro indy people on FB who would do anything to gain independence, or to trigger another election.

Thing is, if lots of people did it, it would defeat the purpose anyway, as the Scots would look as keen to leave as rUK.

What do the polls say? Surely the majority are pro Europe anyway?

Same old shite being pushed by the SNP - they have a one track mind and a one track agenda. The two things are only related in a tiny minority of peoples minds. They are using the EU Referendum to flog their own wants.

I have no idea whether I will vote to go or stay in the EU - i've not clued myself up enough yet, but I have no interest in another Indyref.

A lot of people have talked about Scotland being taken out of the EU by the rest of the UK, but I think it's equally possible that the rest of the UK votes narrowly to leave but are kept in the EU by Scotland voting strongly to stay. The fall out of such an outcome could be massive.

What would the fallout be do you think? After all it's what the smaller nations have to put up with in every general election. Only England voted for he Tories.

I'm curious as to how tactical voting in a 2-horse race works ?

As I said, voting out (when you want in) in the hopes of triggering a referendum.

As I said, voting out (when you want in) in the hopes of triggering a referendum.

I can't help but feel a paraphrase of dear Oscar is apposite (the one about the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible). Something like the unknowing in search of the unknown ?

I'm curious as to how tactical voting in a 2-horse race works?

 <strong>As I said, voting out (when you want in) in the hopes of triggering a     referendum.</strong>

This would only work if you were a Scottish Nat living in England, so that you helped England vote out while Scotland voted in, thereby supposedly triggering another Scottish independence referendum (it is not agreed that this would happen in the event of Brexit btw, it's just what the SNP claim should happen).

A non-Nat pro-EU person living in Scotland might wish to vote tactically to leave the EU to reduce the effect of the remain vote in Scotland and give the SNP less of a grievance case if Brexit won. Or, which would be amusing, result in Scotland voting to leave the EU when the UK overall voted to remain. This would be my ideal result

Anyway, it does get on my nerves, this constant reference to Scotland or England voting to leave or remain. Every voter in the UK is voting whether the UK should leave or remain, nobody gets to decide what Scotland, England, Wales or NI do individually.

So, I can't understand why my 'Yes' voting family and friends would then vote to stay in the EU. Isn't it just the same being "ruled" by Westminster as it is by Brussels?

^^ Exactly, Countess - confuses me too, but perhaps Nats can believe two mutually exclusive things before breakfast or something

So, I can't understand why my 'Yes' voting family and friends would then vote to stay in the EU. Isn't it just the same being "ruled" by Westminster as it is by Brussels?

^^ Exactly, Countess - confuses me too, but perhaps Nats can believe two mutually exclusive things before breakfast or something

Yep, it's quite a skill.

How nice that this has turned into a Nat bashing thread. SNPbad and so on, how tedious.

DavidTennant how would that work then given the massive difference in populations between Scotland and England.