To wonder if scots will be voting to stay in the EU?

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Because if they do and the rest of the U.K. vote leave, it will trigger another independent Scotland referendum

Just curious.

There is no Ireland/Wales and Scotland in the EU to decide to stay or not.

There is the UK.

Whether the EU would want any of the 4 as individual countries would be down to each applying independently if there was to be a complete split.

Exactly. Scotland isn't getting a vote, nor is England. The UK is. There is actually no need to split the results up geographically. Why not drill down further? Maybe Leicester will vote to stay and Manchester to leave? Could get messy.

The only people forcing a link between the EU referendum and the Indy Scotland issue are the Scottish nationalists. If they weren't grasping hold of it, salivating for the chance to claim yet another made-up grievance, we wouldn't need to be having this argument.

I am voting to stay in the EU because I truly believe it's in our best interest - but I would love it if more Scots than English voted to come out just to see Nicola implode with rage. Whatever the result she'd soon find some other excuse to trigger another referendum - even though the polls are showing there is no appetite for one.

Yep.

No itsall not everything can be laid at the door of big bad Westminster
"Westminster stated that if Scotland left the UK it would lose EU membership"

that's not wholly true. The comments were made by the president of the European Commission, Jose Maria Barossa and then naturally pounced upon by the Better Together campaign.
as quoted in the Independent "it would be extremely difficult if not impossible for an independent Scotland to join EU"

What I'm enjoying immensely is watching the SNP sit on the same side as the Tories. Between this, the 2016 equivalent of rate controls, their refusal to raise income tax and their tendency to hold back money from national organisations the tartan is becoming bluer by the day.

"If the UK leaves now, and an indy Scotland rejoins, that will make border issues far more difficult. Things that are allowed one side of the border will be illegal on the other. A real mess."

A utter rot England Scotland Wales and northern Ireland already operate different systems, including legal, in various areas and for the most part it works on a day to day level.

B there's already a border with the EU via Ireland and northern Ireland so if UK leaves EU there's a land border with EU there already.

I'm voting in at the moment but still listening to the various arguments.

But I voted no at indyref and now regret. Separate issue.

Whatever the result she'd soon find some other excuse to trigger another referendum - even though the polls are showing there is no appetite for one.

I saw a Rise stall in town today with a banner saying something along the lines of "the people demand another referendum". Bollocks. Polls show the numbers wanting another ref now are even lower than those saying they'd vote yes, which is still under 50%.

I'm very pleased to read comments from so many sensible posters! As some one said upthread the soon the SNP manage to put on everything is incredible. I'm tending towards an out vote just to get the numbers voting out in Scotland up and to be in with a chance of seeing the look on sturgeons face when she realises her dream of another referendum is slipping from her grasp.

Exactly. All this baloney from that idiot Swinnerton about 'the Scottish people will demand another referendum'. Err, naw they won't, you numpty. The Scottish people demanded that we stay in the UK, but obviously the wrong Scottish people were asked

Spin not soon! Is there a way to turn autocorrect off....?

Swinney even - my sensible phone doesn't recognise him

All this baloney from that idiot Swinnerton about 'the Scottish people will demand another referendum'. Err, naw they won't, you numpty.

trying to link these two things and get another referendum about Scottish Independence of the back of a completely unrelated subject

"Asked how they would vote if there was another independence referendum tomorrow, 49% of the poll's 1,000 respondents would vote yes, 45% would vote no and 5% did not know. This becomes 52% for yes and 48% for no when "don't knows" are excluded.

More than half (54%) said they would vote yes in a second independence referendum if Britain voted to leave the EU when voters in Scotland voted to remain, compared to 39% who would vote no and 7% who were unsure. This becomes 58% for yes and 42% for no when "don't knows" are excluded."

m.heraldscotland.com/news/14266721.Poll_finds_majority_of_Scots_would_back_independence_if_UK_exits_EU/

Obviously, after the GE polls aren't to be relied on, but this is certainly suggestive.

Some if you would vote out purely to piss off Nicola Sturgeon? That's hilarious. And sad. With this level of debate, you are welcome to it.

clearly a sense of humour failure in the SNP camp tonight Shoveyergranny! I am undecided as there are many things I dislike about the EU as well as some things I do like. Still, casting a vote to piss Nicola S off does hold a certain appeal

For what it's worth l voted No to independence and l will be voting to leave EU. ( l think)

Nicola says Scotland wants to stay in the EU - unfortunately as usual she hasn't bothered to ask me - I'm voting for out!

Oh and no to independence - without the income from NS oil we haven't a hope.

Swinney even - my sensible phone doesn't recognise him

Your phone is clever

Some if you would vote out purely to piss off Nicola Sturgeon? That's hilarious. And sad. With this level of debate, you are welcome to it.

There are some that are also voting out in order to hopefully trigger another referendum but I see you don't mention that...

I did actually mention that earlier. It doesn't even make any logical sense and I have not heard of anyone planning to do it. How can voting out trigger an indyref? It makes no sense. A bit like this thread.

There is absolutely no point in voting Out in Scotland in the hopes of forcing another indyref. Nats living in England could, as a tactical thing, but I doubt there would be enough numbers to make any difference.

How can voting out trigger an indyref?

The SNP believe that Scotland are pro EU so their arguement is that if the vote is to leave then England is doing so against Scotland's will and do would trigger another ref.

In reality the SNP will find any reason they can to call for another ref.

If there was another independence referendum then I don't think the UK government would be so stupid as to allow a biased question a second time. They were idiots to allow a yes/no question the first time!

UKGvt didn't allow the yes/no question, they insisted on it.

Please show me one example of the SNP suggesting this kind of nonsensical tactical voting. It doesn't exist because they are not idiots.

Fine - I was referring to the polls which show that there is no appetite for a second referendum- despite the claims from Mr Swinney last night on the news that the Scottish people "will demand another referendum". No, we really won't.

the Yes/No was not what the SNP proposed actually, Westminster insisted on that. But well done on rewriting history to suit your narrative.