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To ask dd to pay for own flight?

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bornwithaplasticspoon · 16/02/2016 09:16

We're planning a 3 week trip abroad next year. Dd1 will have just turned 19 and will be living at home while studying. She has a part time job earning roughly £200 a month.

We've decided that she should contribute the £600 for her flight and we'll pay food, accommodation and days out expenses.

I mentioned this to a friend with a dd of the same age and she seemed astonished that we would ask for a contribution.

Dd seems to think it's unfair too but says she'll think about it. She's a great girl who does a lot to help us with younger dc.

What does everyone think and how have you dealt with the situation of taking older children on holiday?

OP posts:
BackforGood · 16/02/2016 13:34

I think you are being tight, too.
We are paying for ds to come with us this year (he'll be 20 then, at end of 2nd yr of university). If it's a family holiday, then it's paid for by us, as parents of what are (financially) dependent children. The earnings from a part time job are hardly great -and they won't be dependent or wanting to come on holiday with us for very much longer.

Scholes34 · 16/02/2016 13:38

I'll happily pay for my DD to come on holiday with us. A family holiday is precious time spent together and quite priceless, really, especially when they're older and you don't know whether or not it will be the last one with you all together. Will budget accordingly.

Headofthehive55 · 16/02/2016 13:51

I gave my DD some money when she didn't go on holiday with us after her ALevels. She wanted to go with friends and I wanted to give her a bit towards it so she had enough to go with so I get that, but I don't get you asking her for a contribution!

My DD is coming with us on a very expensive holiday this summer, she also works and us a student. I am just very delighted she is coming with us. I certainly won't be asking her for any money!

JenEric · 16/02/2016 14:04

Three months wages for a holiday is insane. I'd ask her to take her own spends. The contribution itself is not the issue just the amount comparative to her income, especially if she pays things like a phone, board, car expenses, lunches at college etc.

infife · 16/02/2016 14:13

One must also query the parenting message being made by telling a young person it is responsible to spend 25% of their wages on holidays ;)

Grapejuicerocks · 16/02/2016 14:20

I would make sharing with her sister non negotiable. If she wants her own room - she pays the difference.

CiritheLionessofCintra · 16/02/2016 15:03

First, it sounds like because you've been told you're right and unreasable you've decided to drip feed to make yourself seem better.

Second I think you're a tight cow for the the simple fact that it comes across that you're favouring one child over the other. You're DS works full time and you ask him to pay for a meal while your DD works part time and you're asking for 600 pound for a family holiday? That's ridiculous.

Regardless of what you've paid (also it sounds like you're keeping a tally of what you've paid to use in the future.) this is a family holiday. Your DD is still at home and still babysits for you, she's studying and learning to drive. She sounds more responsible than some teenagers these days.

You have to be a bit well for to afford a holiday costing that much because if you're not then you're just daft.

I have 4 DC. I wouldn't expect them to pay for a family holiday that I wanted them to come on (though it doesn't seem like you want her there for anything other than babysitting.).

CiritheLionessofCintra · 16/02/2016 15:04

god, auto correct. That's meant to be * wrong and unreasonable.

SuburbanRhonda · 16/02/2016 15:07

She probably doesn't want to share with her younger sister because she knows that will mean having to look after her. Same shit, different donkey. She'll have more fun with friends - I'd be persuading her to do that, OP.

HormonalHeap · 16/02/2016 15:11

If she's studying hard what more do you want?? She's your bloody child and she's trying to make something of her life! Am actually incredulous!

squoosh · 16/02/2016 15:13

Sounds utterly mean to me.

bornwithaplasticspoon · 16/02/2016 15:27

Trying to answer some questions and not get too emotional..

It's hard to read 'tight' 'mean' etc as we're neither of those but you don't know us, you only know a small part of our lives. Dh adores dd1 and doesn't sleep until she's home, often picks her and her friends up late at night and last week drove them all down to london for a concert when they missed the train. I drive her to work and back as often as possible to save her time and bus fare. I don't ask my children to do much around the house. Ds is in charge of the rubbish and dd1 does help out with dd2 but in the way of helping her with her hair, keeping an eye while she showers while I wash up etc. There's certainly no unpaid childcare so I'm not sure where that has come from.

Ds has had mental health issues which he's recovering from which is why he's not been in higher education. He's struggled to find work but he is full time now in low paid retail, has some good friends and is a lot better. He's cosseted yes, but when you live in fear of finding that your child has ended their life you tend to treat them with kid gloves. I can't hear sirens when he's out without panicking. Having a girlfriend has helped him lots and I'm starting to be able to relax when he doesn't come home.

I know I can be quite hard on the dc's because compared to my childhood theirs is bliss. I lost my wonderful mum suddenly who was a single mum and was 'taken in' by father and step mother and I was never a proper part of the family, a proper cuckoo in the nest. I'm still not over the things that happened and it was 35 years ago. NC with them all now and I'm trying to work on it. I should not compare their childhood to mine as it's absolutely unfair, but it's hard, especially when they complain about what they don't have. Maybe this is where my 'tightness' comes in.

Also hard to read the assumptions that dd is not my husbands daughter as she was a longed for child just like our other two. I know aibu can be a tough place but I like to think, when I'm responding, that I don't make such assumptions.

Anyway, I did update with our solution which is way up thread now. Dd is pondering sharing with her sister.
This holiday would be completely in uni summer hols 2017 and is quite a relaxing one (bar the travelling and the two city days) she could study while there, we will get younger dd to leave her in the bedroom in the daytime if she needs space. Dh will have to work (he runs an online company) so I can take dd2 off out if they both want peace.

The flight prices aren't out yet so we're basing it on 2016 prices.

Thanks again for your opinions. It's interesting to read how others do things. 'Without conflict there can be no progress' is very true.

OP posts:
Trickydecision · 16/02/2016 15:49

I would not dream of asking a DD in a situation like yours to contribute to a family holiday. We have holidays with DSs and DGCs and we pay for the lot precisely because it is a family holday.

sonjadog · 16/02/2016 15:49

Hmmm.. So now she pays 600 pounds, shares with her little sister and has to study in her hotel room while being on holiday? Or have I missed something?

wannabestressfree · 16/02/2016 16:00

As the mother of a DS with similar problems that bit I get...
It looks like you are trying to find solutions...

PurpleDaisies · 16/02/2016 16:00

I don't know any student that studies during the sinner holidays-I'm not sure how that's relevant in any way. I'm sorry you've had a tough time with your son and your own childhood. Have you talked to someone about it? You need to try and make sure you treat your children fairly and equally, even if that doesn't necessarily come easily to you.

It's fair enough to say she should share with her sister. I can't find your update...are you still charging for the flight?

JessieMcJessie · 16/02/2016 16:07

She shouldn't have any study to do in the summer vac. I guess if flights are not even out yet you've got a while to decide what to do but do be ready for your DD changing a lot when she goes to University and no longer wanting to go on holiday with family.

Any particular reason she is not going further away to study? Leaving home for University was what made me grow up properly and I don't think students really get the full social benefits when they live at home. I know finances can be prohibitive but clearly your family has the means to fund her.

bornwithaplasticspoon · 16/02/2016 16:09

Sonjadog. No. We would save more than £600 that if we could book a 2 bedroom house so it would cancel out the money we had been thinking of asking for.

Dd is looking at accommodation now and has found one on airbnb which has a little separate sunroom so dd could use that to get away from her sister, or vise versa.

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mouldycheesefan · 16/02/2016 16:09

Still don't get why son gets compensated for not going on holiday and daughter has to pay three months wages to go. Concerns for son mental well being shouldn't mean daughter is treated less favourably.

harshbuttrue1980 · 16/02/2016 16:12

Why are people saying that the OP should pay for the whole holiday because it is a "family" holiday - are grown-up children not part of the "family"?? Why should it always be the parents who have to pay for everything, even when the "children" are adults?? I don't think its too much to ask that everyone chips in for an expensive holiday like this - after all, everyone is getting the benefits of it.

Of course, if the OP's DD doesn't want to spend her money in that way, then there should be no pressure for her to go.

PurpleDaisies · 16/02/2016 16:15

i don't think its too much to ask that everyone chips in for an expensive holiday like this - after all, everyone is getting the benefits of it.

Most people haven't been totally against the idea of a contribution but it's the fact that it's three months wages that's the issue.

bornwithaplasticspoon · 16/02/2016 16:16

Jessie. She applied to our local uni as a wildcard really without thinking she'd have a chance as it's a RG one. She was delighted to get an offer she can easily achieve but yes, I think she'd like to move away and have the proper university experience. Her plan atm is to stay home in the first year and then move into accommodation with others she's made friends with in the second year when they have to find their own place. I really hope she does as I think she'll love the experience.

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harshbuttrue1980 · 16/02/2016 16:17

Also, why are people saying that the DD earns a "pittance"?? She has £200 a month in totally disposable income, just spendies for things like clothes and socialising. Lots of full-time working people would love to have that amount free after all the bills are paid. People who think that is a pittance aren't on the same planet as me.

sparechange · 16/02/2016 16:19

He's cosseted yes, but when you live in fear of finding that your child has ended their life you tend to treat them with kid gloves.

That is totally understandable, OP, but look at it from your DD's POV

She studies, she tows the line, she has a part time job, she helps out around the house, and is getting treated like a second-class child because of it. There is a not-very-fine line between making exceptions for mental (and physical) health issues, and showing blatent favoritism, and you've massively crossed it...

MitzyLeFrouf · 16/02/2016 16:20

Yeah but £600 is three months entire income.

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