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AIBU to charge my daughter's friend to stay?

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Bifflepants · 10/02/2016 07:35

Never posted in AIBU before, but I am genuinely interested to know if I am being unreasonable. Mixed views amongst my real life friends.

My older daughter is at university studying to become a vet. I miss her very much and love having her home in the holidays. As part of her course, she has to do a number of placements - 3 weeks dairy, 3 weeks sheep, 3 weeks horse and various others, just to gain experience on farms with these animals. We live in a rural area and finding placements around home is not difficult. Last holidays she had a dairy placement, arranged by me. Her new best friend at uni asked if she could also do it with her, and so came to stay for over 2 weeks. I was told by my daughter she would cook for herself etc, but she arrived from a holiday abroad absolutely broke, bought very little food and discovered a love of my cooking (I'm a good cook it must be said). So she ate very well, and contributed nothing except one meal, which took her 5 hours to cook. We ate at 10pm that night. She was a lovely girl, very like my daughter in that she was socially a little unusual and quite clever. She was also quite messy and did little to help around the house unless asked. It was like having another daughter.

Anyway, she left just before Christmas, leaving her bed unmade and a pile of books and rubbish in her room. I breathed a sigh of relief. Now my daughter has announced that the friend wants to a lot more placements here as there are no farms around where she lives. So another 7 weeks this year staying at ours altogether. I said fine, but she would have to pay some board. Either $20 (10gbp) per week for just bills, $90 (45GBP) for dinners only or $130 (65) for all meals and board. As a family we spend a lot of money on food and eat well, so this was a fair estimate of what it would take to feed her in my view. She had a very good appetite.

Additional info: We are very comfortably off but not rich and generally run out of money just before pay day. We don't have savings. I am not the best at managing money but we are never in debt. The friend's parents are both very senior doctors and very well off. Neither my daughter or the friend can get part time jobs as the course is too demanding so both rely on student loans and parental handouts. My daughter has never really had a best friend before and I very much want to support the friendship. The friend has agreed to the dinners only deal.

My real life friends were a bit shocked that I had asked for money, and also thought it was a lot. What do you think?

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Goingtobeawesome · 10/02/2016 07:53

Difference*

Blu · 10/02/2016 07:53

What is the usual deal when they go off on placements? Presumably many of them have to stay in B&Bs or hostels? And pay?

I think for 7 weeks lodgings , for study, it is reasonable to ask for a contribution .

But having accepted the contribution you need to be a welcoming host and support the friendship for your dd's sake: relax those cats bum lips or they will show.

cornishglos · 10/02/2016 07:54

£45 a week for meals as a student is quite a lot, but maybe not where you are. I don't get the maths either. £10 a week for just bills seems reasonable.

SerenityReynolds · 10/02/2016 07:54

I don't think you're BU. When we did student placements, we had to pay for rented accommodation if we weren't placed near home or uni. While still paying for our uni accommodation as we had odd weeks back for lectures. I assume she would have to do the same if she wasn't staying with you, at a probably much reduced rate? Feeding and providing water/electricity for an extra person for 2 months will cost you money. I don't see why she shouldn't contribute.

HolsW · 10/02/2016 07:55

cornishglos - a lot? My accommodation at uni was £250 a week and then + food!

Pipbin · 10/02/2016 07:57

The most unreasonable aspect of this situation is that the friend or her parents have not already offered to pay.

I agree. Why haven't the parents of this girl been in touch to say how grateful they are and to offer some money?
No, YANBU at all to ask for a contribution. This is not a offer of staying over for fun.

bakeoffcake · 10/02/2016 07:57

I think it's fair to charge her.

She should have offered you money for her food and keep anyway. Expecting to stay for 7 weeks for free is taking the piss extremely rude.

cornishglos · 10/02/2016 07:58

True. I was thinking that as a student when I cooked for myself I spent very little every week. And adding an extra portion to each meal made doesn't add a lot to the food bill. But I've never had an adult to stay for 7 weeks.

cornishglos · 10/02/2016 07:59

And maybe she is already paying £250 per week so can't pay that twice. It's not the same situation. It's not a business, it's a friend.

brassywind · 10/02/2016 08:01

Are you in NZ? If you are you are offering a bargain as electric bills are stupidly expensive

Bifflepants · 10/02/2016 08:01

I think the thing is that we spend a lot on food. It is our biggest outgoing. We are a family of foodies and eat a lot. She LOVED our food. I'm not prepared to change our diet to beans and lentils for 7 weeks, so if she wants to eat our meals, it will be expensive. And haha about the cat's bum lips. I promise I was really really nice to her, and I will be again. She was a sweetheart.

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Finola1step · 10/02/2016 08:03

YABTotallyR.

Her parents should be ashamed that you are being put in this awkward situation. Ut sounds like she made the arrangements via your dd and hasn't thought through how grateful she should be that someone is willing to support her education in this way.

Bifflepants · 10/02/2016 08:05

Yes, in NZ. Food and electricity very expensive. As an aside (and sorry for the dripfeed), when my daughter went to stay at her parents for 4 days, she had to blow up her own air mattress and there was no food in the house so she ate out with her friend and paid for herself. I put bloody flowers in the guestroom and made the bed with my best guest sheets!

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londonrach · 10/02/2016 08:05

When i did placements cornish i had to pay for my student uni accommodation and my placement accommodation. Yanbu. Sounds good valve. 7 weeks is along time, its not like its an overnight stay its almost two months!!!

AgentProvocateur · 10/02/2016 08:07

Going against the grain here, but no way would I charge one of my DC's friends to stay, particularly if they were a student and I was "comfortably off". Unless you're eating fillet steaks every night, it's easy to stretch meals to feed another person. My DC would die of embarrassment if I proposed charging their friends.

Adeleslostbeehive · 10/02/2016 08:09

I don't think it's unreasonable particularly but I can see why she hasn't offered (not something you think much about at that age) that said, I don't think the small amount your charging is really making up for the inconvenience of a 2 month houseguest (and I don't think you could charge an amount that would) so I wouldn't have her stay. I would recommend her and daughter look for accommodation elsewhere. Surely if these placements are unpaid it's common for the farm to offer some kind of lodgings?

ivykaty44 · 10/02/2016 08:09

It's not unfair to charge for bed and board for a student on work experience staying in your home

I think if someone can afford a foreign holiday, then not afford food for afterwards, what where they going to eat if they hadnt been staying with you - soup kitchen?

Not sure I understand ops different paying guest packages though?

eddielizzard · 10/02/2016 08:10

yanbu at all. i'm surprised her parents didn't contribute. i would certainly have if you put my dd up for 2 weeks. they sound really tight. very unattractive quality.

scarlets · 10/02/2016 08:11

7 weeks is a lot. It's more than just having a friend to stay. It's a shame that her parents weren't clamouring to thank you, and to offer you something tbh.

I agree with the "house rules" chat, too. You don't want her to think that because she's paying a nominal amount, a cleaning/tidying service is included. It would be an innocent mistake, but one that would grate on you.

Feefeefs · 10/02/2016 08:13

I think it's absolutely fine. She would pay if staying at a B&B and will have a much more comfortable stay at yours. Plus she has agreed to pay! No problem. Did she give you a gift or flowers or anything for the first two weeks?

Adeleslostbeehive · 10/02/2016 08:13

There are 2 types of people- those who think about these things and those who don't. If friends parents don't, they never will no matter what you do. She'll always turn up broke and your daughter will never get hospitality there. So i'd ignore that comparison really. You're clearly the type who is still including your adult children in the running of the household which some families don't. I have to say my family always had friends to stay (once, to live) without charge but I understand electricity and food are v expensive in NZ so I can see she would actually leave you out of pocket. I have to agree that in the UK the additional cost would be negligible really.

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Bifflepants · 10/02/2016 08:14

Thanks for all your views. I am of course dwelling on the ones that say I'm unreasonable, even though they are in the minority. I don't want my daughter to stay elsewhere. I love having her home and look forward to it.

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Bifflepants · 10/02/2016 08:16

No gift or flowers, no! She came to a holiday cottage with us for the final weekend too. She definitely had a lovely time.

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brassywind · 10/02/2016 08:17

Well in NZ that is not unreasonable at allWink