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AIBU to think woman in soft play was rude and unhelpful

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fassbendersmistress · 08/01/2016 16:45

Sorry...it's a bit long...(and about soft play to boot.

Put money in air hockey machine to play with DS (3) and Dsis. 4 boys, about 2/3 yrs older than DS came over and tried to grab the equipment. I said, in a really friendly way, we had paid our money and DS was playing. They hung around the table trying to grab the puck and demanding a turn, shouting it wasn't fair...I told them if they wanted to play they could go ask their mums. They kept reaching onto the table. I told them several times to be careful/watch their fingers etc...no drama, just a bit annoying but par for the course in soft play. So at one point when they all had their hands in front of Dsis trying to grab the puck, yet again holding up the game, I said to her just to play on and if they got their hands caught they got their hands caught. Bear in mind they'd been asked very nicely many times to move hands and this was a VERY gentle game - puck travelling at snail pace! She was not about to smash it into their fingers.

At this point a woman appeared beside me and gave me a filthy look. She moved next to the boys who were still reaching and grabbing but didn't stop them, just continued to stare me out. So I asked her why the look. She told me I couldn't speak like that to the children. I explained I had only asked children politely to take their hands off the table (it would have been obvious to anyone watching they were really disrupting the game but we weren't actually making any big fuss about this). She told me that one of the boys had SN and that I was a disgrace. She said she wasn't his parent but that she knew him and I was totally out of order to say that Dsis should play on and that 'the boy could get his hands caught'. She just kept saying 'he has SN FGS'....that I had 'no idea'. This all took place over 5 minutes. At no point did any other adult approach the kids. She didn't attempt to get the parent of the child with SN. For what was left of our game, she stood by the table giving me filthy looks, allowing the children she apparently knew and at least one of whom was hers, to continue grabbing away. When the game finished outraged woman went and got a hug from her friend.

Now, I accept that I probably shouldn't have said the comment about them getting their fingers caught out loud...(it wasn't actually said to or overheard by any of the children)...but AIBU to think she totally overreacted to that? Common sense would have told her there was no actual threat to little fingers being deliberately bashed by an adult.

And AIBU to think that her telling me the child had SN made no difference to the situation because the whole time I continued to just talk to all the children in a friendly way. I was tolerating their behaviour the whole time just trying to manage it so DS could have something of a game. Knowing one of the children had SN wasn't going to change my approach of continue to tell them to stand back, let us play and watch their hands for the 5 mins or so the game lasted. Surely it's better to get the parent involved who knows their child and how to help them if they're in a disruptive situation?

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ArkATerre · 08/01/2016 17:35

Maybe because it is an adult saying they don't give a shit if a child gets hurt playing some game in soft play because they paid for it an goddamn, nothing was going to stop them and SN is crap excuse and where were the parents anyway if they cared that much?

MistressMerryWeather · 08/01/2016 17:36

In my experience parents rarely use SN as an excuse for anything.

We just deal with situations as they come alone like anyone else.

HortonWho · 08/01/2016 17:37

So it's acceptable for her to stand in front of your child and call you a disgrace repeatedly, while being indignant at the way you speak to other children?

LittleMissGeneric · 08/01/2016 17:37

DS1 has SN, and I can't keep my eyes on him all the time, BUT had I come across this, I would have apologized to you and told him to come away.

Yes being a parent of a child with SN is hard, but it's even more reason to teach them how to behave.

OP I don't think you did anything wrong.

RebootYourEngine · 08/01/2016 17:40

Fanjo what do you think the OP should have done?

The woman should have at least suggested to the kids that they dont do that because they might get hurt. Instead she thought that the OP was being unreasonable for wanting to play a game with her child. The woman was being ridiculous.

goodnightdarthvader1 · 08/01/2016 17:42

DS1 has SN, and I can't keep my eyes on him all the time, BUT had I come across this, I would have apologized to you and told him to come away.

Indeed! I've said this before on SN threads, but I genuinely do not understand the attitude that everyone is expected to put up with anti-social behaviour, and as soon as a parent or guardian utters the magic words, "SN", that everyone should go "OHHHHHHH MY GOODNESS, I'm so sorry, I had no idea!"

I'm not suggesting that every parent of a child with SN self-flagellate, but surely there's some basic understanding to be had that your child is the disruptive one, and act accordingly, not get on your high horse.

I honestly don't know what the OP was supposed to have done differently here. She didn't know they were SN until after, but I said previously, it still doesn't explain why the other 3 were acting like entitled jerks.

Saxons · 08/01/2016 17:42

SN is not relative to the situation at all. The mother (or stupid selfish woman) should have been monitoring the child if he was incapable of leaving you to play the game.

I work with children with SEN and I would never have allowed the boys to ruin your game.

MistressMerryWeather · 08/01/2016 17:44

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe, because these threads tend to turn into 'Bloody SNs are an excuse for everything' or 'If my child had SN I would never be such a shit parent' and things get nasty.

Fanjo has been around enough to see which way the thread is going and it seems she was right.

ArkATerre · 08/01/2016 17:44

It's not being entitled. It's about a lack of understanding about turn taking, impulsive behaviour and difference that requires a little tolerance.
Totes non-frothy btw Smile

Whitney168 · 08/01/2016 17:44

Fanjo, do you not think that if those circumstances were indeed true Hmm it might have served the stroppy woman better to say 'sorry, if I try and take the child away he is likely to object - his Mum will be back in just a moment if you could bear with us' - rather than being so bloody rude? And, of course, stopped the other children interfering and made them behave.

Sounds like an over-riding sense of rudeness to me.

fassbendersmistress · 08/01/2016 17:45

Arkaterre Thats a bit dramatic. maybe I didn't make it clear enough in my post but I did admit i probably shouldn't have said the comment about hands getting caught etc...but trust me, a child was not going to get hurt. It was said lightheartedly to my Dsis and if anything it should have been taken as a gentle cue for this lady to remove her child, who was one of the four getting in the way.

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ArkATerre · 08/01/2016 17:47

Lightheartedly referencing injury to a child. Okeydoke.

ghostspirit · 08/01/2016 17:49

if there was a child with special needs i can understand why it may have happend. maybe the friend could not remove the child from the situation because of how he may have reacted. but she should have said im really sorry about that. he has sn and we just need to wait for mum she wont be long... the other children did not have sn as far as we know but were doing it to. and the woman just let them carry on. and just gave op the evils... after the game had finished the woman then went and hugged her mate... was she playing games or something? like she thinks its clever. if thats how the parents/adults act then them kids dont have much chance in growing up as reasonable people

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ArkATerre · 08/01/2016 17:50

these type of threads

The ones where all children must behave at all times, especially the ones with additional needs? Whose parents must be Saints Of Attentiveness and not allowed to be just, y'know, people?

MistressMerryWeather · 08/01/2016 17:52

Yes, yes. Sometimes allowances have to be made for children with additional needs. It's such a hardship for everyone else.

I'm sure your a proper martyr now and everything stopfuckingshoutingatme.

Can you imagine how reading these comments must make parents feel?

Bloody terrified to even mention their childs SNs even when they need to.

goodnightdarthvader1 · 08/01/2016 17:53

Ark I don't think the kid with SN was the issue (although the other 3 were). And the issue isn't with the parent / guardian being "just, y'know, people". She was very rude, staring passive-aggressively. No acknowledgement that a) these kids were being disruptive, and b) OP isn't a mind reader to know that one of them (apparently) has SN.

29redshoes · 08/01/2016 17:55

Why on earth did the outraged woman not remove the children? Was she expecting you to surrender the game to them because one of them had SN? How bizarre.

MistressMerryWeather · 08/01/2016 17:55

The OP isn't the problem.

It's the vile attitudes these threads bring crawling out.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 08/01/2016 17:57

I'm not outraged.

Just thinking FFS.

Have seen it all a million times before.

Am not engaging. .fill your boots.

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 08/01/2016 17:57

In fact