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To let you all know that disabled are having their benefits cut

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AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 19:26

The DWP has today launched a consultation aimed at cutting the number of people eligible for the daily living component of personal independence payment (PIP) by up to 35%. The cuts will be aimed at claimants who qualify for PIP because of their use of aids and appliances and may include replacing awards with discretionary voucher payments.
The press release and consultation document published today claim that 35% of all daily living allowance awards are based solely on the claimant’s need to use aids and appliances.
This is flawed as
A)often disabled people require assistant, however Atos are only scoring then as needing an aid.
B) even if you disability needs listed in the pip form can be met by aids most people will have many other needs not mentioned on the form.
To suggest the only extra cost of being disabled for those claimants, is the cost of aids is absurd and insulting.
The consultation ends on 29 January 2016, conveniently over the Christmas New year Period.
Please if you can take the time to respond.

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/484217/pip-consultation-on-aids-and-appliances.pdft

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AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 19:27

Sorry title should read disabled people.

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Angelika321 · 11/12/2015 19:29

Thanks for highlighting this. Can anyone respond? My DC is still on DLA.

AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 19:34

Yes anyone can respond, am so angry there has been no press coverage if this. I am also shocked that pip can just be changed without any change in the law.

Below is from the benefit and work site.
How to take part
If you wish to take part in the consultation, you can send your response to:

[email protected]
Or write to:

PIP Policy Team
Department for Work and Pensions
Ground floor, Caxton House
Tothill Street
London
SW1H 9NA

Your response needs to reach the DWP by 5pm on 29 January 2016.

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RudeElf · 11/12/2015 19:37

Disgusting! And yes to no coverage! Is there a way to publicise this? Facebook? Twitter? (I'm not on twitter but am in FB)

anotherbloomingusername · 11/12/2015 19:38

Thanks for sharing this. Will share and write in.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 11/12/2015 19:43

Ynbu, but I can't believe that cuntservatives targeting the most vulnerable in society, so what else is new.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 11/12/2015 19:45

You've probably gathered but that message was meant tongue in cheek

AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 19:50

Naively I didn't think even the Tories would stoop this low. They mention in the consultation that anyone receiving vouchers or reduced monthly payments would not receive pass ported benefits and they would be subject to the benefit cap.

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Akire · 11/12/2015 19:56

Thanks for highlighting this not heard either. Sounds v tricky average Tory trick.

It's true AIDS can help but like you say only ask certain question so yes you may be able to get an aid to put your shoes and socks on for example but didn't include all other reasons why you may need to reach that low or pick things up from the floor.

It's the same way they ask if you need help preparing a meal , then disregard fact you have pay extra for the food to be delivered if you can't go out or carry it. Have to have help to put it away. Then have someone help with dishes then sort out rubbish img and recycling. Simply saying it's ok we can give you a mircwave voucher not much use!

TaliZorah · 11/12/2015 19:59

Thanks for highlighting this.

I used to get DLA for bipolar and lost it when it changed to PIP. Apparently my depressive episodes don't count as a disability...

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 11/12/2015 20:03

Ooh there's no depths Dave and Gideon won't stoop to when it comes to the poor and vulnerable. Don't you know by now they get off on it.

Leafitout · 11/12/2015 20:05

Total bunch of Tory bastards. It took 19 months for me to have to wait for my PIP award. Atos are a pile of shit who made me wait 14 months before they even gave me an appointment. The rest was taking it to appeal. Very stressful and now they are going to cut it by 35%!! This should not be allowed. We need the help nobody chooses to be disabled and vulnerable.

uglyflowers · 11/12/2015 20:09

Tory bastards.

Leafitout · 11/12/2015 20:11

But the Prime Minister said the Tories would not “undermine” the PIP, which was introduced under the Coalition.
“What we’ve done through this parliament is we’ve actually improved the money that goes to the most disabled people in our country,” he told BBC Breakfast.
“We’ve replaced one benefit – Disability Living Allowance – with a new benefit – Personal Independence Payment – it’s working well, it is also going to lead to some savings over time and we haven’t created that benefit in order to undermine it. We want to enhance it and safeguard it.”

starry0ne · 11/12/2015 20:16

I am not the slightest bit surprised... When the WTC cuts got shelved they vowed to cut the benefit bill still.

Off course they won't be publicizing this

kali110 · 11/12/2015 20:16

Oh god im supposed to be at a pip meeting next year.
I'm starting to wonder if there is even any point.
It's making me even more stressed.

ingenvillvetavardukoptdintroja · 11/12/2015 20:19

If people don't qualify for pip they will also not qualify for blue badge, motability, bus pass..... V worrying

Leafitout · 11/12/2015 20:22

Just what goes on in their minds? Are they related to Mary antoinette with her "let them eat cake" mindset. These fuckers are really showing their utter contempt for people who at their most vulnerable. Total bunch of bastard shitcunts!!

building2015 · 11/12/2015 20:24

Absolutely fucking outrageous. The PIP forms don't cover half the problems as it is. I don't need ongoing benefits because I need a shower stool (one time purchase). Ffs.

Groovee · 11/12/2015 20:24

I knew the disabled would be targeted when tax credits were shelved.

celestialgin · 11/12/2015 20:26

Bumping. Everyone should know about it. I wonder how many will actually care though?

redbinneo · 11/12/2015 20:28

The Blue Badge is not PIP dependent, however I agree with everything else said about the heartless tory bastards.

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Leafitout · 11/12/2015 20:33

I thought the Blue Badge was pip dependent as its part of the points given on mobility. They give with one hand and take with the other massive,spineless, selfish, gutless other hand.
Will this be for all existing claimants and new ones?