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To let you all know that disabled are having their benefits cut

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AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 19:26

The DWP has today launched a consultation aimed at cutting the number of people eligible for the daily living component of personal independence payment (PIP) by up to 35%. The cuts will be aimed at claimants who qualify for PIP because of their use of aids and appliances and may include replacing awards with discretionary voucher payments.
The press release and consultation document published today claim that 35% of all daily living allowance awards are based solely on the claimant’s need to use aids and appliances.
This is flawed as
A)often disabled people require assistant, however Atos are only scoring then as needing an aid.
B) even if you disability needs listed in the pip form can be met by aids most people will have many other needs not mentioned on the form.
To suggest the only extra cost of being disabled for those claimants, is the cost of aids is absurd and insulting.
The consultation ends on 29 January 2016, conveniently over the Christmas New year Period.
Please if you can take the time to respond.

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/484217/pip-consultation-on-aids-and-appliances.pdft

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Luxyelectro · 11/12/2015 21:26

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Dawndonnaagain · 11/12/2015 21:29

There are a number of people who called me paranoid and other unpleasant names when I stated earlier this year that this would happen, and the shit I got for comparing things to 1930s Germany was unbelievable. Funny, they've all gone quiet now...

CFSsucks · 11/12/2015 21:29

I'm still on DLA at the moment, lowest rate care for not being able to prepare and cook a meal on a bad day. I was already dreading getting assessed, now I have no hope. I don't use aids, apart from tablet box, alarm and tick chart for my meds. I still forget sometimes. I could do with a stick occasionally bit I'm trying not to give in. People like me with a fluctuating condition have no hope.

It annoys me because of the stink made about tax credits but this won't matter to most.

AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 21:30

Just to clarify this relates to the care component only , not the mobility component.

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AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 21:31

Thanks for making it clicky Luxy, my phone is rubbish.

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AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 21:32

Sorry daily living, am still thinking in dla terms when I said care.

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Samcro · 11/12/2015 21:33

What is just so sick is that i just thought that i am luck,
Yep luck that my perosn is so disabled, that even aid doesnt help them, that asking them questions, no good they can't talk.
Wtf kind of country makes you think that

AndNowItsSeven · 11/12/2015 21:34

CFS please don't give up, if you can successfully argue that you require assistance/ printing rather than aids you may qualify for pip. Pip is actually better for people with fluctuating conditions in that you only have to need help 51% of the time.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 11/12/2015 21:37

Err, dare I point out that if they're assessing on the basis of use of aids which will then result in granting vouchers to buy them (presumably from shops with special high prices)... Err, what's the point of the vouchers? They have to have the sodding aids to be entitled to s voucher for the aids?

Wanker idiot bastard twats.

Akire · 11/12/2015 21:37

Just had a look at consultation doc. It mentions twice about it being financial sustainable and "those with the greatest needs". So if you are not within those defined as the greatest needs hard luck.

If you need help this will be on a sliding scale you can't just pick those 10% worse off and dump everyone.

Plus it mentions in examples about a man who needs a pitching stool in kitchen because has Breathing difficulties that because he has chair to rest and sit in kitchen everything fine. The poor bloke would need to leave the house and do other stuff not in a few metres of a perching stool that's why the extra money is needed.

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Princessfrog · 11/12/2015 21:42

Certified in the sense that he definitely is and I'm pretty sure he is cheating the system. I know for a fact he has fraudently claimed for personal accident twice and is under investigation (but not by DWP, as far as I know). I hope he gets found out.

Look, I know the vast majority of dla claimants are completely genuine. What I'm trying to say is, is it immoral how the system can be abused in this way.

Sorry for going of topic.

theymostlycomeatnight · 11/12/2015 21:42

Perhaps I am being ignorant here - but the 5 suggested options on the gov UK link seemed well thought out, reasoned and objective and also this is a consultation process which invites your responses.
I am genuinely asking as I don't know what are the specific needs that are under threat here; how will you and others you know will be affected specifically by this?
Also, how you can say Samcro that David Cameron is anti-disability (Ivan?)

Princessfrog · 11/12/2015 21:43

Sorry that first bit makes little sense. I've had a hard day and beyond tired Blush

HeyMacWey · 11/12/2015 21:47

home.38degrees.org.uk/
Can these people help?
Have brain fog so can't look up hoe to do it.
I was going to try and apply for pip due to cfs but might as well just resign myself to starving when I'm having a relapse.
Tory bastards.

Dawndonnaagain · 11/12/2015 21:47

Also, how you can say Samcro that David Cameron is anti-disability (Ivan?)
Of course he and his government are anti disability. Cameron had a disabled son, he also had access to vast resources that many of us have not. He also claimed dla for Ivan.
The fact is however, that this government think that we're all a bunch of fakers and should be penalised for daring to be ill or disabled.

Becca19962014 · 11/12/2015 21:48

The DWP always do consultations on disability benefits over the Christmas period, it's always the same six weeks.

They've already done away with the WRAG payment, support group criteria is being reduced every year, and people are forced to reapply more and more often in case they are 'better' Hmm

diaimchlo · 11/12/2015 21:49

Please contact your MPs I have and am lucky to have a lovely one (Labour) who has a heart not a swinging brick like the Tories have. If the Tories are not going to publicise this, then it is up to all of us to shout it from the hilltops contacting everyone we can to stop it.

I am on PIP and ESA Support group which I had to fight tooth and nail for, adding anxiety and depression to my already 5 Chronic diseases, Thank you to all of you that voted this inhumane Government in.

CFSsucks · 11/12/2015 21:55

I've emailed the address given. It's disgraceful and nothing more than a cost cutting exercise because of the loss of the cuts to tax credits.

Becca19962014 · 11/12/2015 21:55

My MP says disability benefits should be done away with.

There should only be one benefit for those who don't work and that Jobseeker's Allowance. As for PIP/DLA then the expense of being disabled should be met via health insurance/ savings from work because there is possible work for everyone.

I won't put my reply to them - I am now banned from contacting their office, and it would be pushing talk guidelines even on MN, but that above is from their email to me following the notification of the removal of the ESA WRAG payment and my concerns for disability benefits.

celestialgin · 11/12/2015 22:00
Shock Presumably your MP is a Tory?
CFSsucks · 11/12/2015 22:01

Wow becca! That is disgraceful. I have ME/CFS. The crippling tiredness means I cannot work, there is NO job I could do, I can't even keep my eyes open when the tiredness hits, let alone work at anything.

My MP is a tory twat. I emailed him about the tax credit cuts. He replied saying he agreed with them. Then when they didn't go through he had the nerve to post on Facebook about how he listens to the people! He bloody voted to cut them the hypocritical wanker! Writing to him would be futile I feel.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 11/12/2015 22:04

Hey I'm being thick people please help me!

Posted it on FB and can't work out how I should suggest people respond... Any quick links/ email addresses?

Am pleased someone's asked me already... Don't want to quench that enthusiasm!

Becca19962014 · 11/12/2015 22:05

No.

I'd say he was a cretin but I think that would be too offensive.
For the Cretin Grin

SisterConcepta · 11/12/2015 22:08

You can start a petition on 38 degrees as hey mentioned. I believe they were instrumental in the gov u-turn on tax credits which had hundreds of thousands of signatures. Once you sign up, it take a few seconds to email your mp on any campaign. It's really effective.