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To tell someone about this 11yo girl's YouTube videos?

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ScottishGlen · 05/12/2015 23:21

My dd(11-yr6) told me today about a classmate of hers who puts videos on YouTube including showing off her gymnastics skills in her bedroom. Dd wasn't remotely concerned- just told me about the gymnastic because she is interested. I felt a bit uncomfortable about it so searched using the girl's name and surname on YouTube this evening. A whole series of videos from the girl's bedroom came up. All about gymnastics, school, dancing etc. Generally pretty innocent stuff.
However in one of them she is wearing only her swimming costume and bending, stretching and doing the splits right in front of the camera. In another clip she is proudly showing off a pen she won at school, complete with school name and logo. I feel worried that her clips can be accessed by anyone, have her bending and stretching without much on, have her full name on and her school.
What should I do? I only know mum by sight ( and she has a reputation for being a bit fierce) so I don't think I'd be comfortable talking to her. Talk to the girl's class teacher maybe? (She and dd are in the same class) Do nothing and keep my nose out?
I'm also in a dilemma about my DD. She clearly sees no problem with this girl prancing around on YouTube with very little on which worries me. If she knows I have "interfered" by telling someone about these clips she will be mortified and probably less likely to talk to me about things in the future.
Sorry for the long post. Advice appreciated please wise Mumsnetters.

OP posts:
merrymouse · 07/12/2015 15:22

I am disagreeing with you atreya because the impression that you give is that you are so concerned about the OP saying that the girl's clothes were inappropriate that you are unable to accept that in the context of this video (which only the OP has seen) they may have been inappropriate.

Again, the fact that it is possible for somebody to produce a high quality video about their sport does not lead to the assumption that all videos of anybody wearing the same clothes will be appropriate.

There are plenty of videos of surfers in bikinis. It does not therefore follow that any video of anyone wearing a bikini on YouTube is just good clean fun.

atreya · 07/12/2015 15:22

Chris I think Merrymouse can answer for herself, as that seems to be your sole contribution, and, like her, you know nothing about the gym aspect.

This is a girl on her own (who may or may not have any aptitude for gymnastics) in a private space talking about her life

The OP says no such thing. This is just one example of Merrymouse filling in gaps and making guesses.

atreya · 07/12/2015 15:27

I am disagreeing with you atreya because the impression that you give is that you are so concerned about the OP saying that the girl's clothes were inappropriate that you are unable to accept that in the context of this video (which only the OP has seen) they may have been inappropriate.

Poor reading comprehension and making creative guesses again, Merrymouse. Hmm We covered the OP's language towards gym attire pages back.

bigbuttons · 07/12/2015 16:05

atreya the way you have conducted yourself on this thread is utterly puerile. It's a real shame that you have chosen to behave like this.

merrymouse · 07/12/2015 16:07

and again: whole series of videos from the girl's bedroom came up. All about gymnastics, school, dancing etc.

The OP was uncomfortable about the content, but because she was wearing a leotard/swimsuit and the videos contained some gymnastics you are shutting down any discussion about why she was uncomfortable.

You know nothing about my knowledge of gymnastics, but it doesn't matter what any of us know about gymnastics. You seem to be professionally offended on behalf of the sport of gymnastics and anybody who might wear a leotard or a swimsuit, but that really isn't the point.

Rebecca Adlington wears a swimsuit. That does not mean any 11 year old can post anything on YouTube wearing the Olympic swim team kit and it'll be absolutely fine.

merrymouse · 07/12/2015 16:21

I've discussed the gymnastics more than once

Yes, you have. Long after the OP had apologised you kept hectoring her about why she was uncomfortable about gymnastics.

Anyway, do carry on. Plenty more space left on the thread for you to be offended on behalf of gymnastics.

ScottishGlen · 07/12/2015 17:11

An update for everyone who responded to my request for advice about this little girl.
I spoke to the class teacher this evening and told her what I had seen on YouTube and that I was concerned.
She also felt worried and told me she will look at the videos with the safeguarding officer at the school and decide what (if any) action to take.
There is also a PHSE session coming up which looks at e-safety. She is now planning on bringing this forward on the timetable.
I requested that my concerns are kept anonymous which she assured me she would do.

OP posts:
Senpai · 07/12/2015 17:30

Sounds good OP. :)

It doesn't matter if leotards are appropriate or not. They're appropriate on the gym mats. In the bedroom brings a completely different context depending on what the person is doing.

It doesn't matter how innocent the girl meant it to be. The fact is, safe people will see it innocently, and predators will not. We need to protect children from the predators, and to do that she needs to understand internet safety and why you don't prance around in your leotard in the bedroom for the internet instead of filming a competition.

It's all well and good to say people shouldn't drive drunk on the roads, but you still wear your fucking seat belts. Same thing with the video.

Senpai · 07/12/2015 17:39

Sounds good OP. :)

It doesn't matter if leotards are appropriate or not. They're appropriate on the gym mats. In the bedroom brings a completely different context depending on what the person is doing.

It doesn't matter how innocent the girl meant it to be. The fact is, safe people will see it innocently, and predators will not. We need to protect children from the predators, and to do that she needs to understand internet safety and why you don't prance around in your leotard in the bedroom for the internet instead of filming a competition.

It's all well and good to say people shouldn't drive drunk on the roads, but you still wear your fucking seat belts. Same thing with the video.

bigbuttons · 07/12/2015 18:20

thanks for the update opSmile

millimat · 07/12/2015 18:26

Well done OP, I'd have done the same in your situation.

kawliga · 07/12/2015 18:32

Through making them she is learning skills in editing, production, how to present (wish id had more skills in public speaking at her age!). I don't see the issue

WTAF??!! Confused My daughter learns these skills at school, and through her homework, without making vids of herself in her bedroom to post on the internet. Wow, there are even summer camps where you can send your dc if you want them to learn film production in more depth. Really, an 11 year old presenting herself to the world on youtube doing gymnastics in her bedroom is not the only way.

I think modern parents have completely lost their radar and lost the ability to distinguish between things that are ok and things that are patently not ok.

christinarossetti · 07/12/2015 18:32

Thanks for the update OP .

AnyFucker · 07/12/2015 19:40

That sounds like a good outcome, op

Fairenuff · 07/12/2015 19:57

Well done OP, that's exactly what I would have expected from the school. You can forget about it now.

Jux · 08/12/2015 12:37

Splendid. Well done.

FrankSpencer · 08/12/2015 13:42

Well done, OP. You did the right thing (of course)

onlyif · 08/12/2015 13:49

Speak to the school, they will keep you anonymous. She is a child and we all have a duty of care. Report to school they hopefully will act on it.

onlyif · 08/12/2015 13:51

Duh just ur update. Well done op for doing the right thing.

onlyif · 08/12/2015 13:52

Read sorry Confused

DingbatsFur · 08/12/2015 17:17

Well done OP !

ScottishGlen · 08/12/2015 20:07

Letter home from school this evening expressing concerns about how pupils are using social media. Reminder to parents and pupils about the importance of not using name or school's name and that pictures and clips posted innocently may not be regarded in the same way by a minority of internet users. There were also links to useful websites for guidance on child online safety. I have no idea if the girl in question or her family were approached directly but that is none of my business. I had a good chat with dd about the content of the letter. She listened but claimed to "know that stuff already" She has no idea that I have anything to do with the letter.

OP posts:
FrankSpencer · 09/12/2015 07:18

Excellent. Well, you certainly weren't laughed off the premises with your concerns, eh OP? Wink

DeoGratias · 09/12/2015 07:41

Nothing wrong with that letter atlhough I as a parent would have no problems with an 11 year old posting as that girl did. We live in a liberal democracy where plenty of parents have different views from others - thankfully.

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