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AIBU to be absolutely furious with DH who threw out 'some old children's books' he found stacked in the shed that I'd kept since childhood?

295 replies

Workingfromhome200 · 02/11/2015 11:17

I had about 100 children's books that I'd kept from my own childhood (my late grandmother had read them to me as a kid, others were classics) as well as various books of my own children's that I'd read to them as well. They are now too old for them so I had put them away in the garage for when I have my own grandchildren to read to. DH, who hates any form of clutter, had found them and little by little, been throwing them in the recycling bin, a few books at a time. I discovered this by accident when I was looking through the paper recycling looking for a receipt that might be in a box in there. I was devastated and furious all at once. I phoned him at work and asked him and he took ages to admit it because he has form in this area. Three years ago I had run out of room in my wardrobe and placed some winter clothes in a chest. He went to put some of his own things in the chest, there was no room so go took 'some old clothes there' and put them in the bin outside. I found them a day later when I took out the rubbish, and he promised never to do it again. Don't worry, I am not a hoarder or anything, but we do live in a small 3-bedroom house. But he didn't ask and I think it's just so disrespectful and arrogant not to check. Of course, he's very sorry about what he's done but I have told him not to come home tonight. I am too cross. What makes it worse is that there was one book he didn't throw away because he knew that it was my favourite from childhood (The Lorax from Dr Suess, I was always reading it to our kids when they were little). that tells me he knew what he was doing was sneaky and wrong.

OP posts:
FauxFox · 02/11/2015 16:42

So sorry your DH has been so cruel Sad

I know it's not the same but I have the Beatrix Potter books in a mini bookcase that you are welcome to have - no dust jackets i'm afraid.

PM me if you'd like them and we can arrange how to send them x

AIBU to be absolutely furious with DH who threw out 'some old children's books' he found stacked in the shed that I'd kept since childhood?
Iwasworried · 02/11/2015 16:55

The word that comes to my mind is nasty.
It's very simple - he has been nasty. Very very nasty. And at the moment he doesn't sound as though he even wants to acknowledge that.
Nasty cruel unpleasant man.

quirkychick · 02/11/2015 17:02

[Shock]

I would be so upset about this. Dp loves keeping stuff, is the family archivist, but we absolutely check stuff with each other.

When I was on maternity leave with Dd1 (teacher) I left some childhood and other books in the cupboard in my classroom. They were moved to a spare classroom and got rid of by the Secretary [Sad]. Some of those precious books I was hoping to pass onto Dd1. I lived down the road from school, they could have just asked me to take them home. On the plus side I have just spent some time on Abebooks finding some old treasures.

Workingfromhome I really don't know what to suggest, I would be really alarmed by you 'd'h's behaviour. Who thinks it's ok to throw out someone's precious books for space for oranges?

quirkychick · 02/11/2015 17:04

Shock obviously

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 02/11/2015 17:11

I'm not buying the thoughtlessness shit. Thoughtlessness is throwing them up in a big pile not realising what they were or chucking one and feeling guilty and admitting it

This was deliberate and took time. Everytime he knew that the recycling was to be collected, he deliberately picked up some books and chucked them away. It says "I dont care about these books" even though he knew his DW did care and what they meant.

ApplePaltrow · 02/11/2015 17:47

Please please see what he is - a sociopath.

I normally hate the LTBs that happen on mumsnet but yours is one of the first true examples I've seen of a husband who is genuinely not right in the head - to put it bluntly.

this is so nasty, sneaky and wrong - i'd honestly be afraid. is he going to poison you if you upset him? Leave him. Please!

BoomBoomsCousin · 02/11/2015 17:47

What he did was obviously deliberate, not thoughtless, otherwise, as many have said, he wouldn't have done it bit by bit and then been reluctant to admit it when confronted.

But - my husband would claim not to be a hoarder, yet the house is full of his stuff and whenever I need space there isn't any. Every time I clear some space for something it seems it ends up with his stuff in it. I would have found it immensely frustrating if he had taken a spot I use for something every year and filled it with yet more stuff of his without even talking to me about it. It's selfish and disrespectful. Of course the answer isn't to simply throw things out.

I don't know if you are as bad as my husband (or even like him in this respect at all). But the way you talk about what has happened sounds very familiar and I have a bit of sympathy for him if you are.

goodnightdarthvader1 · 02/11/2015 17:48

He sounds like a child.

"Why did you do that horrible thing?"
shrug "Dunno." scuffs ground with shoe
"You must have had a reason at the time!"
"Don't 'member."

Fucking tosser.

My husband kept 2 old A-Z's, one from 1995 and one from 2005. I threw out the 1995 one because it was so old as to be useless. When my husband realised, he was really upset. I apologised and felt terrible (he loves maps, I should have remembered). At no point did I minimise or pretend I couldn't remember what I was thinking, or do it in a sneaky way. In fact, he keeps lots of old knackered things from his childhood that I would rather we got rid of, but I don't, because they're HIS things.

Scoobydoo8 · 02/11/2015 17:51

Thing is - has he done this before, and you've just shrugged it off as his thoughlessness? So he assumed he could do whatever he wanted again and there would be no comeback.

Has the relationship between you changed recently?

Some serious heart to heart talk between the two of you is the next step. He needs to explain why he did this. He needs to be honest with himself.

Imustgodowntotheseaagain · 02/11/2015 17:57

Any mature partner would have said 'oh dear, you've put your books in the space I keep my fruit. Could you move them please?'

I agree with other posters, if they'd all gone before you noticed, he'd have denied all knowledge.

It's not about the books. It's about control, and him not seeing you as a person equal to him.

SolidGoldBrass · 02/11/2015 18:04

Those of you minimizing this - he also threw away some of the OP's clothes, without asking her, because he wanted to put something of his in the box where she was storing them.
He throws her belongings away whenever he feels like it, and does it in such a way that she finds out when it's almost too late, some of her belongings are already lost, or damaged, so what she manages to salvage is enough to distress her even more because she will now torture herself as to whether she should have been more observant and therefore been able to save the rest.
This is not thoughtlessness, this is not a misunderstanding, this is deliberate malice.

BTW OP, does he ever do things like bump into you, or close doors on your hand, or tread on your foot 'accidentally'? Men who go in for this sort of sneaky cruelty often like to cause physical pain in ways they can pass off as either complete accidents or the victim's own fault for 'being in the way'. They can escalate to dangerous levels.

IHopeYouStepOnALegoPiece · 02/11/2015 18:12

FauxFox how lovely Flowers

ravenAK · 02/11/2015 18:12

I would actually LTB.

& I say that as someone who recently ziffit'ed upwards of 4000 books as preparation for an overseas move.

(Ok I kept the Antonia Forests).

He can't replace them. I wouldn't even let him try.

Just....No. Absolutely would be Game Over for me.Sad

magoria · 02/11/2015 18:15

If he were being thoughtless the whole lot would have gone in one.

This was a deliberate calculated act over a period to get rid of your stuff.

AllChangeLife · 02/11/2015 18:19

What an arse...

This shows a total lack of respect for you... and he is lying. He did it on purpose. They would have gone in one go if it was thoughtlessness... You'd have to be so stupid not to realise at least once in his covert throwing away of books that it might be you want to keep some.

Or if it was just thoughtlessness he might have mentioned it after one of the times.

i'd be really pissed off - but the issue is I don't know how you come back from him being such an arse to you. Sorry doesn't cut it.

ottothedog · 02/11/2015 18:30

You poor poor thing. I cant imagine :( :( :(
He is an utter dick. This would ruin my relatiinship :(

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 02/11/2015 18:34

Oh I'm so distressed for you :( what an arse.

Jeffreythegiraffe · 02/11/2015 18:43

He hasn't been thoughtless though has he. He's actually thought about it quite a lot.

Hence the calculating way he's been throwing them away. Chucking away a box without looking is thoughtless. This isn't. Which is worse.

Narp · 02/11/2015 18:46

What's weird is that the way he did it required quite a bit of thought. It was not 'thoughtless' at all

I would wonder if he's really angry with you, as this seems like an underhand aggressive act

Narp · 02/11/2015 18:47

Juts repeated what Jeffreythegiraffe said!

lorelei9 · 02/11/2015 18:59

I haven't read the whole thread
But I wanted to say how sad I am for you and I really feel for you, so upsetting Flowers

Sorry to say, somewhat flummoxed by the idea that anyone could rip up those little Beatrix Potter books!

Pancake2015 · 02/11/2015 19:00

I would ltb, he sounds like a knob.
My old boyfriend did something similar. He was with me when my mum was giving me bits of her old jewellery.
I went to look at them a few months later, to put them with my nanas and grandas things i have kept. They were gone. I asked him and he said he threw them out. They were real gold and silver. What the fuck. I couldnt get my head around it. I was so pissed at him. It got to the point where i was searching rubbish bags before he threw them out because he would sneakily throw my childrens toys out, too!
He then said i was a hoarder and had major issues. I actually felt like i possibly was due to my bag searching and collecting some things.

No. This was him gaslighting me. I would ltb due to my own experiences. It took a long time of therapy to realise how bad he was.... oh and to top it off. The only reason i had therapy was because he claimed to the doctor that i was mentally ill and he thinks i may have schizophrenia.
He then told the therapist assessing me that i was a wolf in sheeps clothing!!

Thankfully the therapists could see what was happening and helped open my eyes!

Oldraver · 02/11/2015 19:14

I dont know how you havn't made a bonfire of his favourite possesions OP.

My DH had form for chucking stuff..he would always deny it for ages, then when he did admit it get angry with me. It was the lack off any remorse that really hurt

caker · 02/11/2015 20:14

I'm so sad for you, for the loss of your little library and for the utter betrayal.

Sniv · 02/11/2015 20:33

Another one who felt really bad for you reading this.

On one level it is just 'stuff' and not your memories themselves, but I'm sure most people have similar collections - I have a little hoard of useless and generally worthless trinkets and tat that I'm sure looks bin worthy to a lot of people but is like a precious memory garden to me. I would be appalled if I lost it.

I think what would upset me is the loss of security. I like to feel like my home is my little safe cave. I think if we ever got burgled, I'd have to move; the violation of my sanctuary would be irreparable. To have a loved one basically do the burglar's job would be awful.

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