to think if you have a penis, you do not belong in a woman's prison

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There is to be an appeal tomorrow, at Bristol Crown Court, regarding the decision to send violent criminal Tara Hudson, who works as a transsexual prostitute (still has a penis, as 80% of transsexuals do), to male prison. Tara wants to go to a female prison.

AIBU to think that if you have a penis, you should go to male prison?

People are arguing that Tara is at risk of sexual assault, but Tara is not unique in this - lots of (non transgender) men are vulnerable, and the prison service has a responsibility to protect them.

But it's not as if Tara is a man who's just pretending to be a woman to get an easy ride in prison. Plenty of evidence she is genuinely living as a woman.

They are living as a woman (gender), but they are a male (sex)

Unless women shout and scream constantly our needs are immediately trampled over. It is automatically assumed that women will accommodate everyone and everything.

Excuse my ignorance. Had a look at her pictures- where exactly is the '7 inch surprise' housed?

"Living as a woman" - what does that even mean? How do women live that is different to men?

"I don't think possession of a penis makes someone an automatic risk to others."

Neither do I. However, I do believe that a violent person with a functional penis who is condemned to prison for assault is a danger to the women who are incarcerated there.

Your guess is as goos as mine, emma - but she wrote the profile, i assume she knows what she's talking about.

Its called tucking google it basically they hide/strap it away its the same technique drag queens use

YANBU OP.

I have no time whatever for the anti-trans nonsense that happens on this site, but I agree with you.

Penis=Men's prison

I get that some men who are transitioning will feel uncomfortable going to a men's prison. But that is the penalty in our society if you commit a crime and have a penis. I think that transitioning males would be better served by making the case for safeguarding measures in men's prisons rather than requesting they spend their time in women's prisons.

Imustgodowntotheseaagain ah, right, thanks. I suppose theoretically she could be a danger then, although I'm still not sure that a male prisons right for her, either.

You speak sense Dione

He should have thought twice before committing a crime worthy or a custodial sentence, or in fact multiple crimes that added up to a custodial sentence. He was hardly in touch with his feminine side on numerous occasions.

So how would you guys categorise my friend with XXY sex chromosomes (born with male genitalia) who is a transwoman?

Culture as far as I can see from the trans community living as a woman entails lots of make-up, blow dries and skirts.

Of course that's not how women really live - that involves the hardship of having hormones/womb/ovaries/periods/breasts/sexual pressure/slut-shaming/pushing to be equal that trans-sexuals M-F may never understand, because they've never had to.

attheend if she has a fully functioning penis, and uses it, then she is not living as a woman! What is the evidence you speak of? I presume she would be making far too much money to have the final op.

Tara should be housed in a male prison until she is rid of her '7 inch surprise'.

at the end of the day prisons are segregation d according to sex, not gender

Some of the attitudes on here are vile and utterly depressing.

How does your friend describe themselves then?

A woman in a mans body?
A person that feels predominantly like a woman but wants to keep their penis?

scarlet what's vile is expecting women to put up and shut up when a person with a penis wants to be locked up with them.

Where as I find attitudes on here encouraging Scarlett

Great to see more and more people hitting trans-peak. Its certainly different to a few years ago

I watched the whole Caite thing. I started off feeling sorry for him and switched to calling Caite her, now I call him Bruce again.

Exactly.

A woman's prison is for women. It's about biology not societal gender. And women should get to be in there with women.

As I said, a fully transitioned transwoman would be different in my view. But that isn't what's happening here.

I am sure lots of nice , gentle men would feel a hell of a lot safer in a women's prison too. The way to deal with safety is in the man's prison.

Thanks for the explanations.

Is this also why we now talk of 'transgender' rather than 'transsexual'?

My friend described herself for years as never fitting in, never able to keep up with sport, never being a "real boy". She is the smartest person (IQ and emotional intelligence) that I have ever known. She has transitioned fully but any transwoman could be midway through that (long, intensive) process when they become incarcerated.

(Incidentally, none of the trans people I know/am friends with have ever desrcibed themselves as being in the wrong body.)

Hitting trains-peak?!?!

That's possibly the most offensive thing I heard in quite some time. What a vile person you are.

I dont get that Button? then why were they not happy in the body they were born with then? very weird.