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Cheryl was Cole is...

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40thisisit · 24/10/2015 20:50

Far far too skinny, it's not attractive, how does she stay alive?

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TheFairyCaravan · 25/10/2015 10:54

Her top half looks like mine except my boobs are bigger. She's put on weight since that photo anyhow.

var123 · 25/10/2015 10:55

I watched X factor last night, and I was struck by how thin she is, even in a world of thin celebrities. Rita Ora looked quite nice, and healthy and I found myself remembering how attractive Cheryl Cole was before that weight loss.

Maybe its a good thing, in one sense? Not for Cheryl Cole, obviously, but as a demonstration for young girls that there is such a thing as too thin?

DinosaursRoar · 25/10/2015 10:55

U2 - that was one of the photos taken over the summer just after her FIL died, while she didn't have her arms out last night, she did look like she'd regained weight on her face. On last night's X factor, she didn't look very underweight, she looked healthy.

But the point I can't help many are missing, she has talked openly about losing weight after family death on her DH's side and another family crisis on the back of that on her side, and yet the narrative on here is that she's chosing her underweight bodyshape, she'd deliberately 'starving herself' to look thin for attention/her career/to look more attractive, and therefore is a poor role model. Yet if someone in the public eye gains weight, no one assumes they are chosing that body shape - particularly if they are known to be going through a bad time.

We all accept stories like "I'd been on a diet and looked great, but then I had a stressful time and it just piled back on" because so many woman do respond to stress by comfort eating, they are given sympathy and it's understood it's hard to control your diet when you are emotionally struggling/stressed. Yet woman who's natural reaction to stress is to lose their appetite are judged much more harshly, that they should be able to control their eating and still eat in a healthy fashion, so it's a choice to be thin.

That when her life has calmed down a little, she's regained weight, suggests that Cheryl didn't set out to be that thin.

AyeAmarok · 25/10/2015 10:55

I don't think that's a recent picture though, I remember seeing that weird outfit months ago!

I still don't think she looks "underweight" there.

She's what, 5ft 3? I'd guess she's about 7.5 stone in that, maybe a bit less. That's not dangerously underweight.

Lurkedforever1 · 25/10/2015 11:03

summer when I mentioned healthy weight range, I'm talking in terms of how much fat someone is carrying, not where they fit in on a chart.

emotionsecho · 25/10/2015 11:07

There's a photo of Cheryl on the Mirror website, she is sitting next to Jess Glynne during the Judges Houses bit for X Factor. Both Cheryl and Jess look fine and healthy, not much difference in size.

carabos · 25/10/2015 11:14

If she's 5ft3 and 7.5 st then she's fine. I had a serious food poisoning about 15 years ago which resulted in some bowel problems and a period of substantial weight loss. When I eventually saw a gastroenterologist I was 7 stone at 5ft 4. He was very relaxed about that and said that although yes, I was a bit thin, he wouldn't "intervene" to support my weight unless and until I lost another stone. In other words, he wasn't going to be concerned until I reached 6 stone. 6 stone. He's an expert - nothing to do with aesthetics, he was thinking purely from a health perspective.

Sallystyle · 25/10/2015 11:25

I'm not skinny shaming.

I have been skinny and I have been fat.

Someone asked for pictures and people keep saying that she isn't underweight when clearly she is. Or was, because in the last few shows she has gone back to looking healthy again, but for a while she looked ill. Mostly it was noticeable in her face shape.

She looked beautiful last night again. Much healthier because for a while she did look very ill. My husband in 10 years has never commented negatively on anyone's body shape, but he was pretty shocked and asked me if she was really unwell. It was very noticeable and shocking. I'm glad that she seems to be over the other side of whatever was causing it.

emotionsecho · 25/10/2015 14:42

However, U2 this thread was started after her appearance on the X Factor last night so the OP who started this thread doesn't agree with you.

Also the OP's comment on 'how does she stay alive' is just so ridiculous, there are hundreds of millions of people on this planet who are very thin and very much alive and well which I believe shows how distorted the view in the West is of body size/shape and how much food we actually need to consume.

Utterlyclueless · 25/10/2015 16:12

OP I have trouble believing you're a dietician if you were I doubt you'd make such a comment.

Someone's weight is no ones business I hate threads like this, as a sufferer of 'anorexia' they really aggravate me people making comments on anyone's weight whether it's too fat or too skinny - it's not your business it doesn't have an impact on your life and she's probably sick of people commenting on her weight!

The therapy I'm currently under for my 'ED' involves working with a dietician I'm glad she's more professional than you.

SheGotAllDaMoves · 25/10/2015 16:19

If CC is sick of people commenting on her weight she might feel it appropriate not to body shame others!

MrsDeVere · 25/10/2015 17:12

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AnneSansTete · 25/10/2015 17:18

My dsis contracted malaria (and wasnt nearly as ill with it as Cheryl was by all accounts) about 4 years ago. She has really struggled to keep to a healthy bmi since then and people are always commenting that she should eat more.

I don't understand why it's so acceptable to comment when people appear to be underweight, especially as it's often due to health conditions/ stress that the person is probably extra sensitive about.

Booyaka · 25/10/2015 17:47

I've been 5 foot 2 and 7 stone as an adult and I did not have concave cheeks like that. 7.5st is just slender at that height. Given that TV really does add a stone I'd say she's not much over 6st

SuckingEggs · 25/10/2015 18:00

Yes, MrsDeVere, she did. Gets a big fuck off from me, too.

Talk about irony and hypocrisy.

CatMilkMan · 25/10/2015 18:11

I really want to like that Megan t song but that line pisses me off.
It's something like "tell all them skinny bitches that, nah I'm just playing I know you think your fat"
Patronising fuck.

PollysHoliday · 25/10/2015 18:18

Very very slender frames were not always normal in the past. It annoys me when people say we've all lost sight of what's normal. Seven and a half stone might be normal for some individuals but it wouldn't be achievable for the average woman without a pretty severe calorie restricted diet. I'm 5'5" and nine stone makes me a size eight. That size eight may well be a size twelve of the sixties and seventies but then size twelve was considered very slim in those decades.

Bonnie Parker was five foot tall and weighed about six and a half stone. But she grew up in a poor household even by Depression era standards. Her very slender frame is probably indicative of serious poverty.

The group of beauty queen contestants from 1950s Blackpool have figures that wouldn't look remarkably slim today.

And CC is not 'naturally' very very slender. This photo is from around ten years ago.

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carabos · 25/10/2015 18:56

I'm not sure about that polly. My dear late GM (97) used to often send me bits of clothing she found in the charity pile at church. She always sent size 14 - I am and always have been a size 8. When I would tell her thank you but could she take them back because I'm a size 8 she would give me the Hmm look as if to say "that's what you think". I think to her eye, I looked like the size 14 of her day, and she didn't think that was small. We have definitely got bigger - not just fatter or taller, but generally bigger, more muscle, taller.

OddSocksHighHeels · 25/10/2015 19:26

Polly where did you get the figures for Bonnie Parker from? I'm 5"1 and just under six and a half stone, it's hard to tell with the clothing but I'd actually say she looks bigger than me.

WorraLiberty · 25/10/2015 19:40

Polly those women are not beauty queens, they're just women playing volleyball on the beach.

Link here

These are the actual beauty queens from the link.

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WorraLiberty · 25/10/2015 19:47

To clarify, I meant the women in green and red aren't beauty queens.

suzannecaravaggio · 25/10/2015 20:17

This is almost word for word an exact copy of the last Cc thread

PollysHoliday · 25/10/2015 21:43

Odd Socks - from Google. If you are smaller than Bonnie Parker in that photo you are clearly tiny.

Worra those two women are also playing volley ball in the picture I posted. All four were used in the publicity shots.

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PollysHoliday · 25/10/2015 21:48

Okay carabos, I'm going by my own grandmother's opinion, she was very slim her entire life. And by my mother who had a Twiggy like appearance in the sixties but never, I believe, wore smaller than a twelve.

OddSocksHighHeels · 25/10/2015 21:49

Sorry I should have clarified Polly I am tiny because I'm recovering from anorexia. Right now I'm 6 and a half stone at 5"1 and I'm pretty sure that I am smaller than Bonnie Parker, that's why I asked if you were sure of her height and weight. At least I think I'm smaller, my own view may well be skewed, admittedly.