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To think my ex is being a selfish bastard for wanting to see less of his kids now he has remarried

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Domoreofwhatmakesyouhappy · 04/09/2015 15:04

My ex was always very hands-on with the kids and when we split up I promised him he could see the kids whenever he wanted (I am prime carer as he has the career). For the past 4 years he has seen my boys every weekend - he has now moved away from the family home so I've always had them Mon-Fri then they go to his for the weekend, which also works for me as I have to work every Saturday in order to make ends meet. A few months ago he remarried and reassured the boys that nothing would change. They adore their father and look forward to seeing him on a Friday and get very upset if there is any change in this arrangement, which happens from time to time.

So far this has worked well, I work six days a week and have Sunday to recharge, get jobs done, see friends etc. Works for me, works for him, works for the boys.

However having the new wife has changed this and he now wants to formally change things so that the kids come back a day early every other Saturday so the boys will only have 24 hours with him instead of 48 and he gets a day of "grown-up time" with his wife (what so the other five days are not enough...?).

From a purely selfish point of view I'm gutted as this means I lose my "day off" from work and kids, which means so much to me, especially having a boy with special needs, and have been having some behavioural problems with the other one also. I get no break otherwise as family are not around to help. Also I think the boys will react really badly - the new wife arrives, they get pushed out...

I've told him that the boys are going to feel really hurt and rejected but he is determined to go through with the change and "manage" their anger and sadness. He also proposes lying to them by not telling them outright that things are changing but just every other week saying oh this week you are going to be with mummy on a Sunday.

I do understand though that he needs some time for himself and for his new relationship. Tell me, am I being unreasonable, or is he?

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Likelystory · 05/09/2015 14:20

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BoneyBackJefferson · 05/09/2015 14:51

I have found this thread interesting in that it runs counter to the threads where the nrp has wanted the kids every weekend and the rp has been told that its unfair that the nrp gets all the good times.

BitOutOfPractice · 05/09/2015 14:54

It's not about that at all though is it? It's about selfish arsed adults messing around with kids' routines for their own benefit

KevinAndMe · 05/09/2015 15:12

I think I would propose him a trade off.
You do a Sunday every other weekend BUT he has them some of the holidays (if not half of them).

That will give you some breathing space, the boys will get to see him at least as much as before.

Oh and I would also want to review what maintenance he is giving you. Yes his DW has a dad but if he also has had promotions etc I'm wondering if it wouldn't be fair that his children are also benefitting from that.

BathtimeFunkster · 05/09/2015 15:23

The basics of the OP was that the mum doesn't want to lose her child free day and her ex wants to have a child free day.

No, the basics of the thread is that a "father" wants to reduce his contact time with his two sons, one with autism, one a rising teen, by 25% and lie to them about it.

I would never, ever want to never see my kids at weekends, but if that was the arrangement we had come to, and it was working for the children, I would be disgusted to have them dumped on me so two adults could pretend to be childless one day a fortnight.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 05/09/2015 15:40

I have found this thread interesting in that it runs counter to the threads where the nrp has wanted the kids every weekend and the rp has been told that its unfair that the nrp gets all the good times

Did any of those threads have a known background of the arangement being mutually agreed and working well for 4 years?

CalmYourselfTubbs · 05/09/2015 16:10

wait till he has another child with this woman (and yes that will happen).
that will really put the cat amongst the pigeons.

BoneyBackJefferson · 05/09/2015 16:54

sockamnesty

No idea, but then after 4 years this arrangement no longer works for everybody.

DixieNormas · 05/09/2015 18:19

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NeedsAsockamnesty · 05/09/2015 18:47

If an arangement no longer works for you and it involves other people having to accommodate a change then the grown up thing to do is to actually ask or discuss and attempt to reach a mutually acceptable agreement.

Not just demand.

Likelystory · 05/09/2015 18:55

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iamaboveandBeyond · 05/09/2015 18:58

Its easy enough to solve. You agree to have them an extra 1/4 weekend days, if he can have them an extra mon-fri a month. Driving them the long distance to school. Funnily enough, i dont see him agreeing.

BitOutOfPractice · 05/09/2015 19:11

"Things change, cumstances change." - agreed. And I happily swap and change around with my exH to help each other out

But the only thing that has changed here is the OP's ex's committment to his kids

If my exH says "Look I have to work Sundays now. Can I have them Friday and Sturday instead of Saturdayad Sunday?" I would say "Of course, let's see how we can make that work and talk it over together with the DC."

If he said "Look can I just have the kids in Saturday instead of Friday and Saturday because I want to go to the pub with my GF" I would tell him where to get off. Not that he would thank goodness

Oswin · 05/09/2015 19:14

Nah likely story its always the rp that has to be flexible. They don't get much choice. If the nrp don't want his kids That day they just don't. Rps don't get that choice. I'll repeat, 6 NIGHTS A MONTH is how much he will be seeing his children.
Yeah a real equal parent.
It seems nrps don't have to do any parenting just nice little visits. That's ok though cuz Rps are flexible.

thehypocritesoaf · 05/09/2015 19:15

Tell him you need some "child free" time on Wednesdays- 6 am-9pm.
Apparently everyone needs child free time and you can just change arrangements when you feel like it.

BathtimeFunkster · 05/09/2015 20:15

Loads of things and circumstances have changed for me since my eldest child was born 7 years ago.

But still, here I am, responsible for him 24/7.

It's really not on that I can't offload him onto a convenient free patsy who has no choice but to look after him if I refuse.

Being a single NRP is fucking nirvana - you can call yourself an equal parent, make all kinds of demands, and yet ultimately you have no responsibility at all for your children.

The buck doesn't stop with you.

You can "parent" when suits you. The normal vagaries of life provide endless excuses for bowing out of your commitments.

In fact you don't even have commitments, just "arrangements" that are always subject to change if you can't be arsed.

Likelystory · 05/09/2015 20:57

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BitOutOfPractice · 05/09/2015 20:59

Bathtime I wish there was a "like" button here.

lotsoffunandgames · 05/09/2015 21:32

Likelystory is talking sense.

Oswin · 05/09/2015 21:36

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Oswin · 05/09/2015 21:40

I'm so fucking offended and upset. Pity party? Are you for real. You know nothing about the lives of the rps on this thread.
Are you an rp?

Likelystory · 05/09/2015 21:45

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Oswin · 05/09/2015 21:47

Are you an Rp?

BathtimeFunkster · 05/09/2015 21:48

undertandable. Let's hope its not as obvious to the dc caught amongst it all.

Grin

I hope your children aren't being too badly affected by your passive aggressive spite.

lotsoffunandgames · 05/09/2015 21:49

I think a few poster are using bad experiences they have had with ex's and going ott with this thread. Just because something shit happened it doesn't mean this will happen to op.
I hope the kids don't pick up on neither parent wanting them around on alternate Sundays.