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MaryBerrysEyelashes · 19/08/2015 22:05

lazygirluk.wordpress.com/2015/08/19/is-it-just-me-thinking-mumsnet-brought-the-dadsec-attack-on-itself/

I'd like to know who the moderators are.

OP posts:
TheyreMadITellYouMaaaad · 20/08/2015 12:11

To try out on other sites - banks, mobile contracts, building up identity theft profiles, etc.

the20somethingmum · 20/08/2015 12:17

Well, for people so informed on my site and writing, I don't actually accept sponsored content. It says so, right in my welcome tab. Sorry to disappoint.

I'm a social commentator, I write on areas of Blogging, including situations like those mentioned above- especially if they make other bloggers look bad (or how certain trolls would like to portray us all, as with here where we are all stat chasing to blag paid for content). The Is It Just Me thread has been going for many years and has covered many topics, parenting, celebrity or otherwise.

I also cover mental health- having had a nervous breakdown after my son was born at 28 weeks, I like to help others who are going through similar times.

I did not tell anyone to drop dead, go away and die, or rejoice when they left (or flounced as you so politely put it). I'm sarcastic, guilty as charged, and I couldn't see the necessity for a ringleader and her hangers on joining a jokey discussion with 130 other comments- some worse than mine and far more misogynist- and picking on my one tame remark.

I see I'm not the only person who has witnessed Moderators making a situation worse. I'm sure now you'll want to cause that poster to flounce for agreeing or backing up my experience.

I've said their methods were wrong. I have said I do not condone the way they have behaved. I was giving my opinion on what could have been at the heart of the hack. I don't profess to be an expert on the mentality or reasons behind a Hacker.

The fact that several of you have done exactly what I accused of you- following me around social media, writing nasty comments, saying I am lazy, inarticulate etc, proves every point I have ever made about my personal experience of MN and some, not all, of it's members.

I find it quite horrifying how cult like some of you are. Its like you are brainwashed and will attack anyone who has a valid reason to say, from experience, that the site needs to do more to protect all members and not just some.

CoteDAzur · 20/08/2015 12:26

Have you considered... umm... getting over it?

StanSmithsChin · 20/08/2015 12:27

I'm sure now you'll want to cause that poster to flounce for agreeing or backing up my experience.

Do you mean me the20?

I agreed with you in part but I also criticized your delivery. Please don't think for one second I agree with everything you wrote because I don't, I merely had an experience of bullying on MN but unlike you I took the time to investigate further. So while I am able to talk freely about my negative experience with MN I also talk about the positives I have witnessed and how they outweigh the nasty few. This is something you have failed to do.

the20somethingmum · 20/08/2015 12:31

No Stan, I didn't mean you. I meant Ghost who pointed out seeing mods make matters worse.

I assure you I have fully gotten over the abuse, but I still get email from ex members upset at their treatment. It was MN who got personal with me for disagreeing with their Mutiny of Bounty, coming up with similar responses about my ability to spell, my being a chav (how original) and generally chasing me round the net to be nasty.

BrendaandEddie · 20/08/2015 12:32

i agree
SO SO SO move on

LazyLohan · 20/08/2015 12:37

TheyreMad, potentially but the risk is negligible.

The list only gives usernames and passwords and does not give email addresses. It's highly unlikely that the usernames are linked to financial accounts as that's normally linked to email addresses.

So anybody wanting to do any stealing would have to find the few which hadn't had their passwords changed, login, make a note of the associated email address + password and hope for the very few that hadn't changed their password already that they used the same password elsewhere with the same email. Plus for things like bank accounts there are extra layers of security.

I think it's highly, highly unlikely that anybody would manage to get enough usable data to actually steal from posters in this attack.

the20somethingmum · 20/08/2015 12:37

Move on?

Say the people who posted a load of half truths about my post knowing I wasn't a member and thus hoping I wouldn't see it, are still, across social media platforms suggesting I have condoned the hacking despite me wasting my breath saying I do not condone it. And the folk who are doing nothing more than proving me right about certain members nasty tactics.

OK then.

ArendelleQueen · 20/08/2015 12:38

the20somethingmum It's concerning that you're holding on to this after all this time. It's not healthy. It's a website and a few random strangers who lodged insults at you. The way you talk about it is quite bizarre. As I would say, let it go.......

LazyLohan · 20/08/2015 12:40

20something why do you care? These are anonymous people posting on a web forum whose opinions have no bearing on you and shouldn't affect your life at all.

You've tried Mumsnet, you don't like it. That's it. I don't understand why you are giving it headspace and harbouring such a grudge over it. In the grand scheme of things the opinions of Mumsnet posters or petty rows on here are massively insignificant and the only thing which gives it any importance is the fact you're allowing them to bother you so much. And you shouldn't. Who cares?

the20somethingmum · 20/08/2015 12:41

No, I gave my views on the hack. I used my experience to back up why I thought it was possibly down to the behavior of some members.

So, either I am ill-informed and didn't back up why I held that opinion, or I over inform why I thought it and thus should move on?

Can't win with you people. You make it up as you go along.

MaudGonneMad · 20/08/2015 12:43

You've tried Mumsnet, you don't like it. That's it. I don't understand why you are giving it headspace and harbouring such a grudge over it. In the grand scheme of things the opinions of Mumsnet posters or petty rows on here are massively insignificant and the only thing which gives it any importance is the fact you're allowing them to bother you so much. And you shouldn't. Who cares?

Quite. It's okay not to like a website. It's rather unhealthy to obsess over it so much - did you really spend 18 months 'investigating' MN? Grin

Feenie · 20/08/2015 12:43

I cannot believe you even suggested Justine take some responsibility for the swatting attack on her and the other MNer.

Do you have any idea how violated and scared they and their families must have felt? They have children FFS.

The only people to blame here are the scumbag hackers.

I'm afraid this blog post sums you up 20something, and it ain't pretty.

^^This.

ArendelleQueen · 20/08/2015 12:45

"Can't win with you people."

You're not even talking to the same people. People come and go, they move on.

the20somethingmum · 20/08/2015 12:48

I wanted to find out why they got such a bad rep from others. I also didn't appreciate someone signing up as my nn and the Mods refusing to give me their details after 6 months when it was accidentally brought to my attention.

Look, ladies, believe what you like. Snark about me, my mental health, my thought process all you like.

I know why I have the opinion I did and stand by what I posted as an opinion piece on a mostly opinion based blog.

To quote you guys- if you don't like the site, don't read it.

LazyLohan · 20/08/2015 12:56

I'm not sure what a nn is, but why on earth should Mumsnet ever hand over details of any poster to another poster?

StanSmithsChin · 20/08/2015 12:58

nn = net name.

TheyreMadITellYouMaaaad · 20/08/2015 13:00

LazyLohan, you're assuming that The List is definitive and has only been available since it was published.

MistressMerryWeather · 20/08/2015 13:01

You should pay more attention to your own posts rather than trying to portray yourself as some sort of victim.

Your posts are astoundingly hypocritical.

You jumped on the bandwagon as soon as you could because of an old grudge and used other peoples (real) distress as a shameless opportunity to get hits on your blog.

MarchLikeAnAnt · 20/08/2015 13:01

m.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

Let it goooooooooo...

Feenie · 20/08/2015 13:03

There are no mods on MN. You can report posts and MNHQ will remove them if they are against talk guidelines or personal attacks. but there are no mods.

You would think that at some point during an 18 month 'investigation' that particular penny might have dropped.

the20somethingmum · 20/08/2015 13:04

Bit different when said poster is masquerading as someone else to cause trouble and causing no end of issue for me online.

And yet they don't back up trolls, according to you folk here.

I had had the name for 5 years, had built up a following. I then have that name used across this site, and others (who were far more helpful) for 6 months, making inflammatory comments in my NN, and had to deal with the effect it had on my blog as a result, in the end I had to revoke years of hard work and relaunch with a new name and re establish my following.

MNHQ did not give a stuff. They refused to give me any details, they didn't even ban the other person for several weeks after it was brought to their attention by me and others.

Feenie · 20/08/2015 13:07

Did you copyright your nn? No? Why should MNHQ get involved in a choice of username?

StephanieBeacham · 20/08/2015 13:07

I'm a social commentator

this is painful. I'm sorry you have had some issues and appreciate you're not a dreadful person, and are probably trying your best but your writing is actually appalling.

I don't know how you can call yourself that.

And I have read the thread linked to earlier and Jesus, I can see exactly why you got thrown to the lions.

StephanieBeacham · 20/08/2015 13:09

Am I missing something - afaik no one can re-use someone else's nickname on here.

It's not possible.