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lets try again with the anti islamophobia, shall we!

240 replies

karbonfootprint · 03/07/2015 22:38

Well, I did start a thread about this recently, but it is full of discussion about terrorists, and events in other countries......

Just talking about this country, the UK, and Muslim and non Muslim British people, lets just look after each other, and stand up for each other against intolerance and racism, and be friends!

OP posts:
ghostyslovesheep · 03/07/2015 23:04

Gemauve so right - one man speaks for BILLIONS of Muslims Hmm

Fag Soldier in Hell
God Sent the Shooter
Thank God for 9/11
God Hates Obama
The Beast Obama
Thank God for the Tsunami
Fags Are Worthy of Death

Westboro Baptists Church - OMG all Christians are gay hatting bastards Hmm

ghostyslovesheep · 03/07/2015 23:06

Maybe the OP missed the memo that you where only allowed to be concerned or campaign against one for of bigotry at a time Dough

or maybe, like many people, she is concerned about that as well

Smellyoulateralligator · 03/07/2015 23:08

Pyjamas and Dough - completely agree with you both. Karbon, leave it will you?

MaidOfStars · 03/07/2015 23:08

Gemauve His FB page is, um, interesting.

PyjamasLlamas · 03/07/2015 23:09

Told ya.

And I still think you are a shit stirrer for starting another thread again when YOU KNEW this is is exactly
What would happen.

ghostyslovesheep · 03/07/2015 23:09

Yeah Karbon leave it - you are not allowed to expect rational discussion or open mindedness - move on - be told woman - shut up - oh is that not oppressive ????

PyjamasLlamas · 03/07/2015 23:14

Oh come on ghosty. You've got to admit what's the point of this thread. She could have continues the discussion on the other one bit interest was waning so here's another thread.

All this peace and love stuff is a bit disingenuous.

I'm Muslim. These threads always go the same say

PyjamasLlamas · 03/07/2015 23:14

Too many typos. Sorry

Smellyoulateralligator · 03/07/2015 23:15

Yes you did Pyjamas.

Ghosty - don't be disingenuous and ridiculous. Rational discussion my arse.

Ouchyouch · 03/07/2015 23:17

Oh look, it's the same op again trying to stir up more anti Muslim hatred under the guise of promoting love and harmony. And most people are falling for it! [Hmm]

ghostyslovesheep · 03/07/2015 23:18

I don't think she is being unreasonable in wanting a thread about taking Islamophobia not to be hijacked by Islamophobic bull no

why can't it be discussed without people banging on about Muslims oppressing women (not true or every fucking Muslim in the world really now is it - are YOU oppressed Pyjamas???) and demanding people apologise for things they haven't done

do you think - on a thread about Homophobia comment such as 'well they are abnormal child abusers' would be tolerated - because some gay men have abused kids? - course not and rightly so - so no I don't think she's being goady

ghostyslovesheep · 03/07/2015 23:19

Ghosty - don't be disingenuous and ridiculous. Rational discussion my arse well no - not when you get insulting - kind of makes it difficult

Alisvolatpropiis · 03/07/2015 23:22

I have no issue with Muslims as individuals. I've not met any individual Muslim with whom I have had to take issue with.

I do have an issue with how the Islamic religion is currently going. It is not currently in a progressive phase, as a religion. As the newest of the old religions.

I'm not shit hot on how Catholicism has played out either, or various aspects of Judaism, Hiduism.

It isn't racist or phobic to voice concerns about IS or the fact young men from my neighbourhood are dashing off to join that movement. It's a genuine concern.

WorraLiberty · 03/07/2015 23:22

Well I'll say it.

I've been giving the benefit of the doubt to this OP but I do in fact think she is a stealth shit stirrer.

She certainly stirred the shit on the fasting thread in Chat. In fact she came across as a fully fledged Daily Mail journalist with some of her posts.

Particularly the ones claiming that Muslims on tubes and buses were telling old and disabled people to 'get off their seats so they can sit down', and claiming teachers were unable to mark work or even carry their own bags.

And that's just a couple of examples.

So to those advising the OP to 'just leave it', of course she won't. She'll carry on starting threads like this, while munching popcorn and looking all innocent when it kicks off no doubt.

Wolfiefan · 03/07/2015 23:23

Um tolerance and understanding folks?Confused

PyjamasLlamas · 03/07/2015 23:23

Listen ghosty I am with you. I have tried umpteen times to have this discussion on a dozen and one threads about Islam. It gets me no where. No matter how hard I try to be a voice of reason of explain anything about Islam I get rounded on and accusations of 'victimhood' come into play.
I've been on the roundabout many many times. There is no discussion to be had about Islam that is not going to descend into a criticism about the entire religion and the need for Muslims to 'get a clue'.

The OP knows this very well and has now decided to start another thread Hmm

PyjamasLlamas · 03/07/2015 23:24

Thanks Worra! Glad I'm not
Going mad

WorraLiberty · 03/07/2015 23:26

I'm just glad other people can see it Pyjamas

Although in other poster's defence, they probably won't see it unless they AS the OP and include the word 'fasting'.

ghostyslovesheep · 03/07/2015 23:26

Fair enough Pyjamas I get your point - it's just frustrating that you can't discuss it like grown ups Grin

I'm off to bed anyway - 4 girls here on a birthday sleepover!

I didn't know the OP had form but I still think it should be something you can discuss like adults xxx

Smellyoulateralligator · 03/07/2015 23:27

Ghostly, my point is that this isn't meant to be a thread where we all share the love and I don't believe it was intended to spark rational debate.
I believe Worra has hit the nail on the head actually.

WorraLiberty · 03/07/2015 23:28

I'm off to bed anyway - 4 girls here on a birthday sleepover!

OMG I think no matter what religion everyone is or isn't, we'll all be praying for you tonight! Grin

ghostyslovesheep · 03/07/2015 23:33

yes they are still up and shrieking - full of coke, harribo and Dominos - I will need to sleep for a week to recover Grin

night all x

WorraLiberty · 03/07/2015 23:34

Night ghosty Grin

ghostyslovesheep · 03/07/2015 23:35

Smelly sorry I didn't get your comment - I do now x

Pray for me! x

PyjamasLlamas · 03/07/2015 23:36

Good luck ghosty! Grin

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