Disgusted at the new Rihanna video!!

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I'm not going to link, but I am absolutely disgusted at the new Rihanna video. Extreme sexual violence. Especially coming from Rihanna who has been a victim of domestic violence herself. Who would make a video like this? I just dispair at what is becoming mainstream.

Sorry, rant over, but this just really upsets me.

Exactly what pepperpot said.

My hairdressers has vh 1 on all day. So does the local pub. They wouldn't be showing a clockwork Orange or something like that in the background, so it's not a fair comparison.

Anyway, presumably young impressionable girls who are Rhianna fans will be actively seeking out her new video. What a waste of her position of influence.

Bad blood. Taylor was lauded for her video but Rihanna is ripped to shreds

Oh, I must have missed the bit were Taylor Swift tortures a naked woman. Or not.

The violence is alluded to in Taylor Swifts video. Rihanna actually showed the violence. They both wanted to audience to come away with the same impression.

Nope, still not getting it.

I prefer Rihannas video for several reasons I think cinematography is better, the sets were interesting and I love the song.

I also like that it is honest. It's honest about how violence really looks, often artist allude to violence to gain kudos and makes themselves look strong and powerful without showing the results. The video is complicated and does not set Rihanna out as a heroine.

Hmm, yes "it's honest about how violence really looks".

I guess that's the argument for watching ISIS uploads of people being beheaded in full technicolour, rather than the sanitised BBC. What a thoroughly stupid argument .

I hear their 'cinematography' is good too....very polished.

The video is complicated and does not set Rihanna out as a heroine.

I couldn't work out what it set Rihanna out as. A removal woman? Someone with really bad dress sense? Someone who seemed to spend a lot of time hauling a blonde woman around - in a trunk, hanging her upside down, in a beach chair (that was where I gave up watching through boredom) for reasons obscure to the audience but no doubt clear to Rihanna? Someone who needs a better song writer?

Honest: not really. The only way it would have been honest would be if it had a disclaimer at the beginning: this is a shit song and a shit video but I know that my fans would buy a cover version of Hey Hey We're the Monkees if I was singing it with not many clothes on and I am exploiting that popularity.

Pepperpot you are being obtuse. Violence is used by artist in music videos all the time, to create an image of the artist being strong and powerful without actually showing the repercussions. In this video Rihanna shows the consequences and she does not come accross and the hero. Her character is complicated and difficult to digest.

If you can't understand the difference between this and propaganda tools used by Isis to recruit terrorist and strike fear into people then Jesus can't save you.

She is singing about her life, what she knows about, experiences and sees.
Don't most artists do this?
I'm no fan, I think she is crap but I haven't seen the film, heard the song, nor shall I out of choice.

LePolarBear you may not appreciate her music but that doesn't mean she is talentless.

So just another shitty piece of blaxploitation.

Ok, I understand why her video is offensive, but I fail to see what this has got to do with her being black? Unless I'm missing something (which I could be), it actually seems quite racist to suggest it is, in that you're focussing on her colour when he colour is irrelevant in this case. It is a sad fact of life that there are some places where black people are able to be exploited because of the racist culture in which they live, but Rhianna is one of the most privileged people (irrespective of race) in the world - certainly not exploited in the usual meaning of the word.

Not at all TheXxed; I am merely using it to point out the dimwittedness of claiming that if violence is filmed in an 'honest' fashion this somehow justifies it. I'm sure you will agree .

I find your comment that "violence is used in music videos all the time to create an image of the artist being strong and powerful" fairly alarming.

Innocent

Sorry, somebody said it was dv and that she had experienced this.
You don't know though she may have seen those things.

Pepperpot violence is used in music, film and print constantly. I didn't say this was a good thing just that it happens. I would amazed if this has escaped you.

Yes it happens a great deal, and Rihanna has added to it. Well done her. A real move forward there.

We have parental controls on our WIFI at home so that the DCs can't access porn. But I was allowed straight onto this video and it was not blocked. But that is not the point. Many teenagers have no parental controls so would have full access and we can't just think of our own children.

This is not porn, it is a mainstream music video by a popular singer. I was linked to the video from a tweet by Sam Smith.

I'm in my 40's and I was disturbed by the video. Maybe some people are becoming desensitised to things like this as it is becoming so much more common.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7710676

With the song, Rihanna flipped the script, subverting the original connotation.

That article reads like it was written by someone in their first year of AS level media studies.

It's honest about how violence really looks, often artist allude to violence to gain kudos and makes themselves look strong and powerful without showing the results. The video is complicated and does not set Rihanna out as a heroine.

I love it when MNers flaunt what they learnt in their GCSE Media Studies courses.